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Frugal1 F I'd like to get an AR, pretty much for defensive purposes, but don't like how darn loud they are. Blowing my ears out to save my life may seem trivial, but NOT blowing my ears out would be preferable. I've heard that muzzle devices such as flash hiders increase the noise. I'm not really sure how. How does a device that looks like a birdcage and is mostly open all around make it louder that if there was nothing there at all--just a bare muzzle? #1 · Aug 15, 2013 I'd like to get an AR, pretty much for defensive purposes, but don't like how darn loud they are. Blowing my ears out to save my life may seem trivial, but NOT blowing my ears out would be preferable. I've heard that muzzle devices such as flash hiders increase the noise. I'm not really sure how. How does a device that looks like a birdcage and is mostly open all around make it louder that if there was nothing there at all--just a bare muzzle? Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions #2 · Aug 15, 2013 I think you have flash hider and muzzle break mixed up. I can see how it might make it a little louder since the noise is vented up/out but nothing like a break does. A break vents sideways and sorta back so you hear more of the blast. If noise is a big concern then you could add the flaming pig to it. It's designed for SBRs and directs the noise forward away from the shooter. #20 · Apr 29, 2017

Som3 dude said: I think you have flash hider and muzzle break mixed up. I can see how it might make it a little louder since the noise is vented up/out but nothing like a break does. A break vents sideways a.... Click to expand...

Fertig said: Yeah, it is the muzzle break. I got a great muzzle break but when I switched out... Click to expand...

You don't need to spend any money to break your muzzle. Just bash it against a rock.

- OS 0 Reply #3 · Aug 15, 2013 The longer the barrel the quieter the shot, even if it's only mms #4 · Aug 15, 2013 A flash hider keeps the shooter from seeing the flash. Everyone else can sure see it. It may make the weapon lauder. I have an Enfield Jungle Carbine that came with a flash hider. It throws a pretty good flame and is plenty laud. #15 · Oct 8, 2016 That's not even close to being accurate. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/jeremy-s/ar-15-flash-hider-shootout/ 0 Reply #5 · Aug 15, 2013 They can change the noise by 1-3dB from the testing I have seen, depending on the design, vs. an open muzzle. #6 · Aug 16, 2013 There are muzzle brakes that are linear brakes and divert some of the noise forward. Like the Levang, Kies, Troy Claymore and Dragon's Breath. http://www.survivalistboards.com/showthread.php?t=275053 #12 · Oct 7, 2016 I have a Black River Tactical Covert Comp (a linear compensator) on an 11.5" pistol that makes it as quiet (to me) as my 16" with a BCM Mod 0 compensator. Linear comps are where it's at. 0 Reply #7 · Aug 16, 2013 depends on where you're standing... the expanding gases are just that... a specific volume of gas getting flung out the muzzle... depending on how the muzzle device redirects that (be it a flash hider or a brake or a supressor or whatever) it will be louder in certain locations.... for instance a muzzle brake will definitely make it louder on the sides, but 'quieter' in front (dont recommend you test this)... #8 · Oct 6, 2016 I've been asking the same question .The flash hider takes about 2" if you put it on a 16" it will be as long as an 18" without a device for a couple more inches you can have a 20 " my 20 " bull non fh is quiter and less flash than my 16" with fh Sent from my XT1093 using Tapatalk #9 · Oct 6, 2016 A suppressor is where it's at. That said, I keep a pair of MSA Sordins next to my bed. It's two extra seconds, and completely optional. #10 · Oct 6, 2016 Yes suppressors are your friend, been trying to convert people over since range noise is a area of concern fromthe near by neighborhood. #11 · Oct 7, 2016 Instead of the "Flaming Pig" search for the GRG Krinkov like https://www.northwestfirearms.com/t...m/threads/grg-krinkov-style-ar-223-1-2x28-muzzle-balancer-29-95-shipped.205633/ https://www.northwestfirearms.com/data/attachments/206/206276-4e9ebd5368f507bac9d94c049885b6ca.jpg They are very similar in construction... However, for defensive purposes, is this for indoors, or outdoor use ? I'm not sure how loud an AR15 would be indoors without hearing protection; let alone if suppressed .. I might consider something else if indoors... Suppressor would be my #1 choice; shame that it's now taking too dang long to get the stamp back.. #16 · Oct 8, 2016 Indoors suppressed it sounds like a .22. You will not like it, but you will likely survive. Unsuppressed, even one shot results in permanent notable hearing loss. 0 Reply #13 · Oct 7, 2016 the total amount of energy (some of that energy is mechanical in terms of expanding gas and sound, and some of it is thermal in terms of heat) coming out of the end of the barrel is the same for similar length barrels.... a muzzle device will only redirect some of that energy... giving the perception of increased or decreased noise depending on your position respective to the muzzle device itself. additionally if you are indoors some of that sound energy will bounce back to you off of walls and other objects (some of it will be absorbed depending on materials)... so note that indoors it will probably be hard to tell a difference in heard or perceived noise regardless of which type of standard muzzle device you employ (suppressors notwithstanding). #14 · Oct 8, 2016 Not really. Muzzle devices just redirect where the sound goes. Watch Silencer shop videos on youtube when they do their testing prior to putting the suppressors on. The DB is usually right around 167 DB be it a sbr, 16",with a brake, with a flash hider, bare nuzzle. #17 · Apr 29, 2017 I have a Troy linear on a 16" 5.56 and a ARP JAL linear comp on my 18" 6.8 they both direct sound downrange great and are quieter and less felt blast where it counts (at my ears )than my open muzzle 20" 5.56 . Anyone who says they don't work has no experience with them or is misleading you . Sent from my Moto G Play using Tapatalk #18 · Apr 29, 2017 Yeah, it is the muzzle break. I got a great muzzle break but when I switched out the flash hider it blew my ears away. Got some headphones--ok now. I am in a forest in the mountains which is a huge advantage with my present set up. There you really have a hard time pinpointing the origins of gunfire but with a louder gun, it makes this much, much harder. Even at 100 yards the sound now seems like it is coming from everywhere at once and then echos, giving more false directions. #19 · Apr 29, 2017 Get a suppressor is still my answer, lol #21 · Apr 30, 2017 Most muzzle brakes are louder than flash hiders for people who are beside you when you fire. PWS brakes do a great job to help with recoil but are louder than the standard A2 birdcage. Insert Quotes Post Reply

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