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So what's left for the final episode? They already beat the main bad guy...
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Dec 2, 2016 8:25 PM#262Hinata-chiOfflineSep 20153269
Shouldn't Migi have gotten the toxins too for being in Gotou's body.
Dec 24, 2016 5:05 PM#263LeeTailorOfflineJun 20131245
Migi's return was not entirely unexpected. I was glad, though. All the talk about humanity being the poison and the parasites being the cure... Well, this series is one of the most boring examples of the execution of such a message that I've seen, at least in my opinion. Shinichi getting emotional for Gotou was pretty funny.
Jan 17, 2017 6:55 AM#264WolfWood37OfflineJul 200811799
So how did Migi survive? Gotou absorbed him? And Shinichi decided to let him live, pulled a fake out and killed Gotou. That's a cruel joke he played.
Jan 20, 2017 9:27 PM#265primaskiOfflineJan 2016302
Best episode yet.... Stop doing this, you're making me detest my own existence and feel once again vain, selfish and purposeless...I already make those thoughts myself without this anime reinforcing them.
Mar 2, 2017 11:16 AM#266Naranja128OfflineJan 2016686
Anybody knows how did Migi survive?
Mar 15, 2017 11:14 PM#267TheFreycookOfflineDec 20163522
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Mar 28, 2017 5:57 AM#268Mariecat1OfflineJun 2016498
Shinchi encoutered a legendary pokemon! Its seemingly weak to poison type and instead of keeping it, he fainted it. Well, at least Granny's proud.
Apr 11, 2017 10:18 AM#269Dull_LullOfflineJul 20134690
This was painful to watch. Migi is a mess. First he talks about his own morality as a parasite and that what he was about to do to Gotou would amount to murder in human perspective which he applied on his own and managed to provoke Shinichi into thinking about the nobility of survival among different species then when Shinichi decides to let nature have his way, he then dropped a bomb shell about the odds of the creation of the very first life form in Earth which then again reminded Shinichi that Gotou was a dangerous entity and an obvious threat to humanity. Just what the fuck is Migi up to? Also isn't it a tad too late to be morally upright about killing your own kind when you have been doing that all the time? I get that he developed some human emotions in him but the sudden change of heart was too unbelievable. Tamura Reiko should have been the final villain. Gotou's too boring and his motivations are uncompelling but I guess Tamura became too human for a parasite to be a villain anymore. This "human are the true parasites to Earth" that they tried to shoehorn in the past few episodes has got to be terribly executed. They spend their time working on some themes about existence and purpose and then all of a sudden it was about Mother Nature all along. There were some foreshadowing of this when Hirokawa answered Tamura's question about their purpose that humans have become too toxic to Earth but I did not expect them to actually pursue that path. If they intended to go that route from the start then they should have made a proper build-up to it not spout some philosophical bullshit about existentialism for the past 19 or so episodes then suddenly take a turning point and made it a story about humans polluting the Earth. How did Migi even survive? Yes, he resided inside Gotou but don't tell me the latter never sensed Migi inside of him?
May 20, 2017 4:13 AM#270PlaycoolSupreme TsundereOfflineNov 20124318
So the weakness in Gotou was his strenght, that he had to rely on multiple parasytes inside him, thus he lost control of them when Shinichi unawarely poisoned him like that... I think it was missed oportunity they didnt explore Gotou origins more, and just left it as, Reiko created him.
May 22, 2017 11:03 PM#271InKensifyOfflineSep 20109801
Would've liked to know an better explanation of how Migi managed to survive
Sep 1, 2017 3:27 AM#272DanaeOfflineMar 20144231
Yay Migi lives!!!!!!!!! And Shinichi has his right hand back. I liked the conclusion of this episode and the questions it posed.
Nov 11, 2017 4:11 PM#273PastUchiha98OfflineMar 2017153
mhh... Migi is alive yeah , but the end have not sense! Why Shin said really nice words like that any human could decide about the life of any creatures and then he finished Gotou? Only because he' a useless human? It seems like that Migi and Shin have changed theyr personaliity in the end... I really dont'like it :/
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Feb 5, 2018 12:25 AM#274removed-userOfflineJul 2018559029
Tbh I was about to cry when I thought Migi was really dead on the previous episode. But now, he's effin' back, alive! Overall, this episode is really satisfying.
Feb 17, 2018 9:31 PM#275EvianBubbleOfflineJul 200920988
Holy crap this episode was awesome!!! Also, I gotta say the music in this show is freaking awesome. The battle music (and dubstep XD) gets me super pumped haha. Awesome fight with Shinichi accepting death, then Migi (in his body) managing to pull together enough to block the attack, which I think allowed Migi in Gotou to be close enough to fuse back together with Shinichi. At least, that's how I understood it. I definitely thought that Shinichi was going to try and set the trash pile on fire to take out Gotou, but this was pretty good too. I kinda liked how after all that, they discussed whether it was right to kill Gotou or not - the philosophy is not lost on this one. Well, in the end, Shinichi ends it ... and heads home. A bit surprised they finished everything here, but I guess the last episode will be used to resolve everything else at home :P
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Feb 19, 2018 7:41 AM#276PrOxAntoOfflineJan 20137308
Makes sense Gotou took Migi aswell considering he had so many other parasites under his control. Loving the philosophical aspect, on who the real parasites are and who are we to decide what gets to live and what does not etc.
Apr 8, 2018 7:52 PM#277KonekonekoOfflineFeb 2010492
I feel like beating the big guy was a bit too easy but im glad to see migi back. I never thought he would actually die. I
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Apr 28, 2018 8:36 AM#278GatorOfflineApr 201338705
If he decided to just let that killer machine be he seriously would've been an idiot. Migi returning wasn't really surprising, I still found these last few episodes weird though.
Dec 31, 2018 12:40 AM#279john1221OfflineJan 201740
YES I KNEW IT IM SO HAPPY MIGI SURVIVED
Apr 20, 2019 9:00 PM#280OlizamaOfflineJul 201615
Hammm.. the second good chapter in the whole anime, the rest is worthless, anyway I had to finish it. Perhaps the manga is famous, but the anime doesn't have any emotions, it really sucks.
Jun 3, 2019 6:32 AM#281OptigisaOfflineJul 20167488
Episode 24 would be unnecessary since he beat that parasite.
Jul 23, 2019 10:29 AM#282Kish0OfflineDec 20181102
Rod ex machina. Ain't nobody got time to care for EARTH.
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Dec 5, 2019 3:15 PM#283Kira70OfflineFeb 201961
Shinichi made all that existential protest involving the living beings of the world to end up killing Gotou the same way. Great way to save time just to complete script 👍
Feb 26, 2020 11:44 AM#284ViltasOfflineAug 2016421
Kira70 said:Shinichi made all that existential protest involving the living beings of the world to end up killing Gotou the same way. Great way to save time just to complete script 👍 I think that was the point of Shinichi killing Gotou anyways. Who are we to decide which life form deserves to live? But in reality we decide anyways. And thats the fact to this twist that matters. Making him a hypocrite made sense to me with that perspective.
Apr 17, 2020 10:55 PM#285suzuyakennOfflineMar 2019270
i didnt like this one, i mean after all that happened, he decided not to kill it? well yes, he killed it after all, but that really just makes it more bs.
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Apr 17, 2020 10:56 PM#286suzuyakennOfflineMar 2019270
i get the point of Shinichi, but i dont think he should be the one to say it, because he contradicted everything that he said in the past.
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Apr 17, 2020 10:59 PM#287suzuyakennOfflineMar 2019270
i dont want to hate this series, but this episode is its downfall, it really sucks.
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Apr 26, 2020 7:22 PM#288Natsu88OfflineJul 20132691
Shinichi was definitely optimistic being able kill Gotou with that little chopper lol. For me it was suspicious to see Gotou sleeping. Could have been a trap, but even that Shinichi landed a good hit it didn't matter. I mean Gotou looked even crazier than before. This is what you can call monster. Shinichi could have died so often in this episode. Just imagine Gotou didn't hit him normally but rather slashed or sliced him. For Gotou it was just kids play to the point where Shinichi accidentily rammed that poisoned rod into his body. The moment where Migi blocked that attack, came back into Shinichis arm and just casually said "Hey", was the best. I loved it and I'm so happy he's back. There was definitely a chance he could have survived, but so many characters who died so far you can't be sure. I can't believe how much damage that poison did to Gotou. He freaked out completely and had almost no more control over the other parasites in his body. In this state it was easy for Migi to finish him off. I can understand Shinichis conflict with killing or not killing Gotou to a certain point but tbh I also would have killed him. A 50/50 is to risky and to many people would die if he's able to regenerate. So from my point he made the right decission. I can't believe theres only 1 episode left :(
Jun 19, 2020 12:24 AM#289MoonPhosOfflineJul 2016819
Glad Migi is back, tho his revival was a bit predicted and kinda cliche.
Jun 24, 2020 12:26 AM#290AkapilkaOfflineAug 201591
This mofo really tried to spare the life of a monster that's a potential threat to humanity. Talk about BS. Since the death of Reiko everything went downfall so hard that's a complete nuance to watch the next episode. I'm mad and sad at the same time. The anti-humanity narrative is nonsensical to begin with (and unscientific too, btw), I'd have rather stayed with the existential threat. Oh, well. And remember kids, Malthus was wrong, is wrong and will forever be wrong. The only criteria to determine overpopulation is thermodynamics. Everything else, we can solve with science and technology.
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Jul 6, 2020 3:44 PM#291HagePotPotatoOfflineOct 20194726
What a god awful episode. Monster dude just lets one-armed Shinichi stab him in his only vulnerable location? Shinichi doesn't kill monster dude because...fate, the earth, some other stupid ass mumbo jumbo? Remnant right arm parasite cells magically save Shinichi when all looked lost? This show has gone to shit again. It's been all downhill since that police/military raid.
HagePotPotatoJul 6, 2020 4:01 PMJul 30, 2020 7:51 PM#292AbiSaOfflineApr 20201109
Migi is back! I was with killing Goto, if they left him alive all the lives lost and the lives that being protected will be for nothing.
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Feb 27, 2021 3:39 PM#293animejasOfflineJul 20176920
The fight with Goto and the Migi return felt slightly corny, but overall, still showcased a lot of progression of Shinichi and Migi's characters and overall, was a solid episode even if not close to its best. One more episode to wrap up the rewatch. It's been a pleasant ride.
Apr 2, 2021 8:41 AM#294ProofByColorOfflineSep 20172865
Had a feeling Migi might be inside Gotou. But man kinda weird they are sorta pushing the idea that humans are the real toxic beings of the earth and that the parasites are here to cleanse them away.
Jun 25, 2021 5:00 AM#295SideCharacterKalOfflineApr 20185490
Goto's design is pretty weird but looks badass af. And MIGI IS BACK!! Glad to see him back. But it was obv that he would come back. This was a really good fight, ost was great too.
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Jun 30, 2021 12:10 PM#296BetaMaleUltrascientia exitusOfflineMar 20206515
Great to have best boy migi back so soon but idk about the reveal that he for some reason merged with goto when the clearly showed him shrivelling up and dying… While I’m glad that it’s not a story simply telling us that “oh HUMANS are the REAL parasites!!!”, which isn’t really that original of a theme, this sure got close to becoming an environmental message with everything regarding the poison from the trash heap. I was like, all of that build up, for a lesson saying to not litter?? Then there’s another problem that I have personally, it doesn’t seem to have any central message it’s trying to give us. Something was real with the woman reiko tamaya whatever her name was, but all we got out of that really was revealing that a parasite was capable of some form of human emotion. Now with these final episodes, it’s just “how to defeat the REALLY strong parasite!” Maybe we got something out of shinchi deciding to spare goto and let fate decide and then turning back on that and deciding to finish the job because he does indeed value his fellow human lives. I guess it’s just trying to show that his human side indeed is still very much alive. But other than that, it’s not as deep as I probably would’ve liked considering all the praise this has been getting. Probably shouldn’t have been looking for what was never here. Anyhow, there’s one more episode left, maybe it can surprise me with something to give me an existential crisis or what not. Fingers crossed I guess
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Jul 2, 2021 4:40 PM#297CoreFinderOfflineJan 2017392
This was a bummer.First he was unbearably slow and then that self destruction thing and then Migi coming out alive at right time.The story had to accommodate too much shit to make Shinichi come out alive in a fight which should not have even happened in the first place.
Nov 15, 2021 7:25 PM#298OceanStream13OfflineAug 2017268
Welcome back Mugi. Would've been too sad if you died :)
Jan 17, 2023 3:09 PM#299nostalgiaasmunchmunchOfflineAug 2019380
They shove us the message of the show down our throats and yet the delivery of it is so bad..... they keep contradicting it all the time, too. Anyway, not Migi suddenly gaining empathy for Gotou saying he'd feel guilty if he were to kill him as if he hadn't been murdering his own kind for the whole show without any contemplations LMAO he just had to feel empathy at the last minute and what's worse, it just HAD to be for the most dangerous, ruthless enemy of all. They did kind of the same thing with Tamura, we were expected to believe she truly loved her baby as if she hadn't been treating him like shit for the whole show with the exception of a breast feeding shot (but at least we had that). I wish we could have seen some nice development of those emotions but we got them all at last minute just right before dying. And idk how they expect me to feel sad for parasytes (Gotou especially) when most of them were moustache twirling villains. If they only wanted to coexist on Earth just like any other being then ok I'd buy it, but they were shown to have fun fighting and killing people lol. Animals kill for food and survival instincts, they don't have any malicious motives but I can't say the same for that whole parasyte commitee... like they were shown in countless scenes to genuinely enjoy seeing people suffer, so that's why the whole "omg poor parasytes don't bully them </3" didn't work for me. Like I said, If they wanted that whole "parasytes deserve to live just as much as any other being" then they shouldn't have made them so sadistic lmao. Shinichi wearing a "philosophy" hoodie is hilarious too, can't get more on the nose than that.
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Aug 5, 2023 7:27 PM#300venbalsOfflineMar 2023222
is he does have idiot brain
Mar 15, 2024 8:34 PM#301HarvestorOfflineAug 2019381
So many asspulls this episode. I can’t believe he shed a tear over having to kill the mass murdering parasite when he’s been preaching about how he hates the murdering of humans the entire show. The author could’ve implemented his anti-human message better. This is just not subtle at all and really stupid in this case because the organism Shinichi had “no right to decide to kill” was a sadistic alien that spawned out of nowhere and was most definitely gonna hunt him down if he revived.
HarvestorMar 15, 2024 8:39 PMJun 28, 2024 7:31 AM#302---Shuichi---OfflineJun 20242
I'm so happy Migi survived, I was crying last episode. I was gonna be angry with Shinichi for sparing that monster but luckily he ended up killing him. Does he not realize he'd just end up being hunted again, and the whole village would die? He'd be back at square 1 for no reason. Sometimes MCs would refuse to kill the villain because they'd be "just as bad" as the them. No the villain killed 100s of people, how can you even compare that? I don't get it. But this is different, it does have better logic. The monsters thinning out the numbers of humans, which would be better for Earth overall. What Shinichi is doing is just benefiting humans.
Jun 28, 2024 7:34 AM#303---Shuichi---OfflineJun 20242
I'm so happy Migi survived, I was crying last episode. I was gonna be angry with Shinichi for sparing that monster but luckily he ended up killing him. Does he not realize he'd just end up being hunted again, and the whole village would die? He'd be back at square 1 for no reason. Sometimes MCs would refuse to kill the villain because they'd be "just as bad" as the them. No the villain killed 100s of people, how can you even compare that? I don't get it. But this is different, it does have better logic. The monsters thinning out the numbers of humans, which would be better for Earth overall. What Shinichi is doing is just benefiting humans.
Feb 8, 2025 6:14 PM#304deepoleOfflineMar 2023168
I tried to hold it in in previous episodes, but this is just terrible
Feb 25, 2025 7:49 AM#305Thejazlord78OfflineJan 202515
Philosophy lesson idk its a gud show
Aug 8, 2025 8:02 AM#306RexnihiloOfflineOct 20205141
Humans are still the strongest after all with our poisons. Nothing more toxic. Anyway, I'm really glad he decided to finish Gotou off instead of letting it be a 50/50 chance that Gotou somehow comes back together and revives. Also while obviously better if Gotou dies here you should sometimes better just put it out of its misery. So glad Migi is back. So he was part of Gotou for a while and aparently it wasn't half bad, a pleasant experience.
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