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    New Game Plus | Elden Ring Wiki

    New Game Plus, or New Game+ (NG+), in Elden Ring is an unlockable feature upon completion of the story which allows you to begin a new journey while maintaining Stats and select pieces of Equipment. This page covers how to enter New Game Plus, what changes it brings to gameplay, and the equipment which carries over. In addition, there are community recommendations about what you may want to accomplish before entering your next journey.

    Elden Ring New Game+ Helpful Links

    • Check our Walkthrough page for a detailed guide on reaching the end of the game.
    • You may also visit the Game Progress Route page for a quick overview of how to progress through the game.
    • Check our Endings page for the different conclusions to the game.

    Elden Ring New Game Plus Guide

    Shadow of the Erdtree NG+ Guide

    What Carries Over to NG+

    • Shadow Realm Blessings
      • Scadutree Fragments
      • Revered Spirit Ash
    • Completed Map
    • Armor
    • Weapons
    • Spirit Ash

    What Does Not Carry Over to NG+

    • Great Runes
    • Key Items
    • Some Bell Bearings
    • NPC questline progression

    How to get to Shadow of the Erdtree NG+

    To play the Shadow of the Erdtree New Game Plus, you will need to defeat Starscourge Radahn and Mohg, Lord of Blood in the base game. Return to the Cocoon of the Empyrean and touch the hand to enter the Shadow Realm. You will need to make sure you have completed everything before you wish to start NG+.

    What Changes in Shadow of the Erdtree NG+

    Just like in the base game, enemies will still scale and get stronger in the Shadow Realm, so looting items and collecting Shadow Blessings might get a bit more difficult. You will keep your Shadow Blessings and also be able to collect them again in NG+. However, if you are not able to collect all of them in your first playthrough, you will still be able to find them in your NG+ playthroughs. There are 50 Scadutree Fragments with a maximum level of 20 and 25 Revered Spirit Ash with a maximum level of 10, the maximum level of your Shadow Blessings will not go higher than its current maximum level.

    Shadow of the Erdtree Checklist

    Complete NPC Quests

    • Needle Knight Leda
    • Redmane Freyja
    • Hornsent
    • Sir Ansbach
    • Moore
    • Fire Knight Queelign
    • Thiollier
    • Hornsent Grandam
    • St. Trina
    • Count Ymir
    • Jolan
    • Dryleaf Dane
    • Igon
    • Dragon Communion Priestess

    Collect 50 Scadutree Fragments

    • Gravesite Plain (8)
    • Scadu Altus (12)
    • Ancient Ruins of Rauh (5)
    • Cerulean Coast (2)
    • Stone Coffin Fissure (1)
    • Enir-Ilim (4)
    • Belurat Tower Settlement (1)
    • Castle Ensis (1)
    • Shadow Keep (11)
    • Charo's Hidden Grave (1)
    • Abyssal Woods (3)
    • Jagged Peak (1)

    Collect Map Fragments

    • Gravesite Plain Map Fragment
    • Southern Shores Map Fragment
    • Scadu Altus Map Fragment
    • Rauh Ruins Map Fragment
    • Abyssal Woods Map Fragment

    Solve 3 Paintings

    • Gravesite Plain - The Sacred Tower
    • Gravesite Plain - Incursion
    • Shadow Keep - Domain of Dragons

    Discover 13 Miquella's Crosses

    • Gravesite Plain (5)
    • Scadu Altus (4)
    • Ancient Ruins of Rauh (1)
    • Cerulean Coast (1)
    • Stone Coffin Fissure (1)
    • Enir-Ilim (1)

    Collect 25 Revered Spirit Ashes

    • Gravesite Plain (4)
    • Belurat Tower Settlement (5)
    • Scadu Altus (4)
    • Ancient Ruins of Rauh (4)
    • Shadow Keep (2)
    • Midra's Manse (2)
    • Enir-Ilim (4)

    Elden Ring Base Game NG+ Guide

    After defeating the final boss and watching the credits, the game will prompt you to "Begin Journey 2. If you do not start over now, you can choose to begin Journey 2 later at the Table of Lost Grace in Roundtable Hold."

    What carries over to New Game Plus?

    This is a list of items and discoveries you keep when starting a NG+:

    • Level
    • Runes
    • Armaments (Weapons, Shields)
    • Armor
    • Magic Spells (Incantations and Sorceries)
    • Talismans
    • Non-Quest-related Items - Generally, if the item isn't used in a quest or unlock a new area of the game world, it is kept
        • Nearly All Consumables
          • Remembrances are kept, although they won't be available for Duplication until the corresponding Boss is slain
        • Nearly All Tools
      • Bolstering Materials
      • Crafting Materials
      • Arrows and Bolts
      • Spirit Ashes
      • Ashes of War
      • These Key Items:
        • Stonesword Keys
        • Dragon Hearts
        • Lost Ashes of War
        • Celestial Dew
        • Larval Tears
    • NOTE: Non-Quest-related Items are kept, but for some, additional copies are not found in NG+ if they've already been obtained:
      • Includes these Key Items:
        • Cookbooks
        • Crystal Tears
        • Whetblades
        • Cracked Pots
        • Ritual Pots
        • Hefty Cracked Pots
        • Perfume Bottles
        • Memory Stones
        • Crafting Kit
        • Talisman Pouches
        • Maps
      • Includes these Info Items:
        • Notes
        • Tutorials
    • Torrent (Spectral Steed Whistle)
    • Maps - The overworld map will remain visible, but Sites of Grace must be rediscovered
      • Location Markers (Blue markers)
      • Custom Markers (Icon-based markers)
      • Finger Reader Crone markers
    • Gestures
    • As of Version 1.12, active Effigies of the Martyr (AKA summoning pools) carry over to NG+
      • Co-op summons still function proper to the level difference barrier, which can be bypassed with a password
    • Invasions will still take place, from other players within your level range
    • As of Patch 1.05, the Twin Maiden Husks shop unlocks from the following Bell Bearings are kept in NG+ (they must be handed in prior to starting your next journey or the item itself is lost):
      • Bone Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Meat Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Medicine Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Gravity Stone Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing
      • Somberstone Miner's Bell Bearing
      • Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing
      • Ghost-Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing
      • Herbalist's Bell Bearing
      • Mushroom-Seller's Bell Bearing
      • Greasemonger's Bell Bearing
      • Moldmonger's Bell Bearing
      • Spellmachinist's Bell Bearing
      • String-Seller's Bell Bearing

    What does NOT carry over to New Game Plus?

    This is a list of items and discoveries you don't keep and must obtain again in a NG+:

    • Side Quest progress
    • Quest-related Items - Generally, if the item is used in a quest or unlocks a new area of the game world, it is not kept
      • These Key Items:
        • Those used to unlock new areas:
          • Dectus Medallion Halves
          • Academy Glintstone Key
          • etc...
        • Those used in Side Quests:
          • Irina's Letter
          • Fingerslayer Blade
          • etc...
        • Great Runes
        • Mending Runes (Endings)
        • Sorcery Scrolls
        • Incantation Prayerbooks
        • Bell Bearings - Both the item itself, and the unlocks provided after turning them into the Twin Maiden Husks are lost
          • Shop unlocks are kept for the Bell Bearing mentioned previously
      • These Consumables:
        • Baldachin's Blessing
        • Miquella's Needle
      • This Tool:
        • Pureblood Knight's Medal
      • Info Items:
        • All excluding Notes and Tutorials
    • Activated Sites of Grace
    • BUG(?): Progress towards the Legendary Armaments Achievement - Game fails to award the achievement if it is not completed in a single playthrough
      • A workaround is to place the items into your storage and then simple retrieve them for the achievement
    • Three Fingers' Mark of the Frenzied Flame - Removed from the character, including its cosmetic changes (eye alterations and burn marks)
    • Dragon Communion physical changes (eye color)

    New Game Plus Checklist

    Do these before advancing to New Game Plus:

    • Back up your save file (just in case)
    • Hand in the following Bell Bearings to the Twin Maiden Husks:
      • Bone Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Meat Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Medicine Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Gravity Stone Peddler's Bell Bearing
      • Smithing-Stone Miner's Bell Bearing
      • Somberstone Miner's Bell Bearing
      • Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing
      • Ghost-Glovewort Picker's Bell Bearing
    • Collect as many final Upgrade Materials as possible:
      • Great Grave Glovewort
      • Great Ghost Glovewort
      • Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone
      • Somber Ancient Dragon Smithing Stone
    • Farm Runes to buy out the Merchants' shops
    • Collect the following unique Key Items:
      • Cookbooks (59)
      • Crystal Tears (32)
      • Whetblades (5)
    • Find and turn in all Scrolls and Prayerbooks to a trainer to purchase their Spells
    • Slay dragons to obtain Dragon Hearts (23) and buy their Incantations at the Cathedral of Dragon Communion
      • Only 20 are needed to buy all Incantations
    • Obtain all Larval Tears (18) for future Rebirth
    • Turn in all Deathroots (9) to the Gurranq Beast Clergyman
    • Kill any NPCs you want the gear from
    • Collect Stonesword Keys; these carry over and can be used in the next playthrough
    • Trade for any Remembrance Weapons you may wish to dual-wield in the future, as only one copy of each weapon can be obtained per NG cycle
    • Obtain any weapons you will want to dual-wield in the next playthrough, as for most weapons only one copy can be obtained per NG cycle
    • Use Walking Mausoleums (7) and Remembrance Duplication Coffins (3) [SotE only] to duplicate Remembrances
    • Collect all non-renewable Crafting Materials
    • Collect the maximum number of these Key Items:
      • Cracked Pots (20)
      • Ritual Pots (10)
      • Perfume Bottles (10)
      • Memory Stones (8)
      • Talisman Pouches (3)
    • Fully Upgrade your Sacred Flasks:
      • Golden Seeds (30)
      • Sacred Tears (12)
    • Collect all Talismans
    • Farm any Weapons or Armor that drop from Enemies, Silver Scarab helps here.
    • Respec your character by talking to Rennala if you plan on playing with a different build from the beginning of NG+

    What changes with NG+?

    You will find some differences when starting a new playthrough through NG+:

    • Enemy health is increased. This means that enemies can take longer to kill.
    • Enemy defense is increased. This means that enemies take less damage from attacks.
    • Enemy resistance is increased. This means that status build ups like Rot and Bleed are reduced.
    • Enemy attack rate is increased. This means that enemies deal more damage with attacks.
    • Enemy poise damage taken is increased. This means that enemies have higher poise and take more to break poise/stagger/etc.
    • Enemy stamina damage is increased. This means that hits absorbed by blocking or block-like effects sap more stamina.
    • Enemy stagger resistance is increased. This means that enemies take more to stagger.
    • Runes received from Enemies and Bosses increase:
      • The increase for NG+ depends on the enemies and bosses and varies between a 5x increase for earlier enemies and bosses to a 2x increase for later enemies and bosses.
      • The factor seems to depend on the area (5x in Limgrave, 3x in Liurnia of the Lakes, Mt. Gelmir, Altus Plateau, Leyndell, Royal Capital, 2x in Dragonbarrow, Mountaintops of the Giants, Leyndell, Capital of Ash, ...) with some exceptions
      • Further Journeys increase the number of runes received based on NG+, or Journey 2, as illustrated in the table below.
        Journey Multiplier
        3 (NG+2) x1.100
        4 (NG+3) x1.125
        5 (NG+4) x1.200
        6 (NG+5) x1.225
        7 (NG+6) x1.250
        8 (NG+7) x1.275

    Enemies and bosses deal more damage and have more health. The amount of increase varies based on enemy and location, with larger increases in lower-level areas. The poise damage and higher stagger resistances interact with each other to increase difficulty. Some enemies are much more difficult to stagger or poise break as a result.

    The breakdown of how scaling works per level area and per ng is as follows pulled from datamined files and tested in-game:

    Base Game Scaling Table

    Area name
    SpEffectID
    Health
    Defense
    Resistance
    Attack Rate
    Stamina Damage
    Stranded Graveyard 7000 1 1 2 1 1
    Limgrave Middle 7010 1.141 1.013 2.018 1.097 1.021
    Limgrave South 7020 1.281 1.026 2.035 1.202 1.031
    Limgrave North 7030 1.656 1.039 2.053 1.495 1.052
    Stormveil Castle 7040 1.813 1.053 2.07 1.495 1.119
    Siofra River 7050 1.953 1.066 2.088 1.69 1.141
    South Liurnia/Academy 7060 2.266 1.079 2.105 1.758 1.141
    North Liurnia/Academy 7070 2.406 1.093 2.123 1.831 1.162
    Lower Mt. Gelmir/Ainsel River 7080 2.688 1.106 2.14 2 1.189
    Upper Mt. Gelmir/West Caelid 7090 3.25 1.119 2.158 2.279 1.211
    Altus Plateau/South Caelid 7100 3.703 1.133 2.175 2.473 1.211
    Leyndell Capital/Nokstella 7110 4.125 1.146 2.193 2.673 1.263
    Volcano Manor/North Caelid 7120 4.844 1.159 2.21 3.244 1.285
    Leyndell Sewers 7130 5.484 1.172 2.228 3.244 1.317
    Mountaintops/Early Farum Azula 7140 6.563 1.186 2.245 3.53 1.317
    Late Farum Azula 7150 6.688 1.2 2.28 3.585 1.34
    Ashen Leyndell/Snowfield 7160 6.875 1.2 2.385 3.64 1.34
    Elden Throne 7170 7.047 1.217 2.49 3.745 1.368
    Haligtree/Mohgwyn Palace 7180 7.203 1.22 2.595 3.796 1.374
    Elphael Brace of the Haligtree 7190 7.328 1.23 2.7 3.796 1.391
    Haligtree Roots 7200 7.422 1.232 2.733 3.796 1.394

    NG+ scaling table

    (NG+2 and beyond multiply the NG+ values)

    Area name
    SpEffectID
    Health
    Defense
    Resistance
    PoiseDmgTaken
    AtkRate
    Stamina Damage
    Rune Multiplier
    Stranded Graveyard 7400 3.434 1.172 1.097 1 1.902 1.2 5
    Limgrave Middle 7410 3.122 1.173 1.095 1 1.965 1.191 5
    Limgrave South 7420 2.857 1.174 1.093 1 1.768 1.182 5
    Limgrave North 7430 2.355 1.175 1.091 1 1.68 1.173 5
    Stormveil Castle 7440 2.146 1.176 1.089 1 1.609 1.164 4
    Siofra River 7450 2.099 1.177 1.087 1 1.483 1.155 4
    South Liurnia/Academy 7460 1.845 1.178 1.085 1 1.4 1.146 4
    North Liurnia/Academy 7470 1.523 1.179 1.083 1 1.314 1.137 3
    Lower Mt. Gelmir/Ainsel River 7480 1.479 1.18 1.081 1 1.239 1.128 3
    Upper Mt. Gelmir/West Caelid 7490 1.461 1.181 1.079 1 1.2 1.119 3
    Altus Plateau/South Caelid 7500 1.296 1.182 1.077 1 1.15 1.11 3
    Leyndell Capital/Nokstella 7510 1.253 1.183 1.075 1 1.141 1.101 3
    Leyndell Sewers 7530 1.191 1.185 1.071 1 1.134 1.083 2
    Mountaintops/Early Farum Azula 7540 1.008 1.186 1.069 1 1.122 1.074 2
    Late Farum Azula 7550 1.001 1.2 1.07 1 1.094 1.065 2
    Ashen Leyndell/Snowfield 7560 1.015 1.2 1.07 1 1.134 1.07 2
    Elden Throne 7570 1.001 1.2 1.07 1 1.094 1.065 2
    Haligtree/Mohgwyn Palace 7580 1.015 1.2 1 1 1.134 1.07 2
    Elphael Brace of the Haligtree 7590 1.015 1.2 1 1 1.134 1.07 2
    Haligtree Roots 7600 1.015 1.2 1 1 1.134 1.07 2
    NG+2 *1.100 *1.025 *1.015 *0.950 *1.100 *1.400 *1.100
    NG+3 *1.150 *1.050 *1.030 *0.900 *1.150 *1.500 *1.125
    NG+4 *1.200 *1.100 *1.045 *0.850 *1.200 *1.600 *1.200
    NG+5 *1.300 *1.150 *1.060 *0.800 *1.300 *1.700 *1.225
    NG+6 *1.350 *1.200 *1.075 *0.700 *1.350 *1.800 *1.250
    NG+7 *1.450 *1.300 *1.090 *0.600 *1.450 *1.900 *1.275

    Multiplayer HP boss scaling data:

    1 more player: x 1.6

    2 more players: x 2.3

    3 more players: x 2.7

    Formula to determine boss health in any location, ng+ value, and number of players:

    ((Boss base HP × map region multiplier) × multiplayer scaling) × NG+ scaling = boss HP

    Examples:

    • Radagon in single-player at NG+7: ((13,339 × 1.001) × 1) × 1.4 = 18,694.6754 HP
    • Radagon with two players at NG+5: ((13,339 × 1.001) × 1.6) × 1.3 = 27,772.86512 HP

    Starting in NG+2, or Journey 3, all enemies take reduced Stance damage:

    NG+2: 5% reductionNG+3: 10%NG+4: 15%NG+5: 20%NG+6: 30%NG+7: 40%

    Other changes:

    • Movement slowdown caused from certain area hazards (such as lava and swamps) is removed upon entering NG+.
      • It's not known if this is intended behavior or not, but it has remained unpatched.

    Note: NG+ does not introduce any new enemies or equipment.

    What happens after Journey 8 of Elden Ring?

    Journey 8 (NG+7) marks the end of Elden Ring's new game scaling; all subsequent journeys will have an identical level of difficulty and rewards.

    At this point, players can choose to pursue their own defined goals, such as:

    • Collecting all Armaments
    • Challenge Runs
    • Obtaining all Trophies & Achievements
    • Experiment with new Builds
    • Prepare for future DLC

    DLC+

    On top of the new game plus cycle, the Shadow of the Erdtree DLC gets more challenging in your first NG+ cycle after beating Promised Consort Radahn. All enemies' health bars are increased, and the damage they deal increases as well. For example, if you first play the DLC in Journey 2 after having never beaten it before, it will be easier than it would be if you'd beaten it in Journey 1 and then played it again in Journey 2.

    The DLC+ increase is permanent for a save file, but it only happens once, so you're either in DLC+ because you started a new game after beating the DLC, or you're not. Being in DLC+ doesn't affect anything other than enemy health and attack power, and it doesn't affect anything in the base game.

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      • Anonymous09 Sep 2025 03:38

        aqual scaling is bullshit while late game bosses scaling should stays same, early game bosses should be scale much better like at ng +1 malanie get % 10 bonus but godrick get %120-200 bonus.Game would be more fun. at ng early game litterally meaningless everthing get one shot ,so in ng % 80 of game actually is time wastage

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      • Anonymous31 Aug 2025 03:13

        Should be player's choice whether to make these already stupidly hard games even harder in NG+ cycles. And before the so-called "Souls-vets" materialize into existence in a way that makes me question the nature of reality and whether Fromsoft Invaders are actually a normal part of it, and proceed execute me Julius Caesar-style with torches and pitchforks for daring to suggest that Fromsoft innovate in some area (or switch up their beloved torture routine in any way really), I'd simply like to point out, just as one example, that jumping wasn't a thing either. From -does- change stuff in between games (this isn't always a step forward of course, rolling back all the advances of Dark Souls 2 back into nonexistence when making Dark Souls 3 was criminal, if telling about Miyazaki's self-obsession).

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      • Anonymous11 Aug 2025 09:20

        I feel like dlc scales past new game +7 cause 8 feels much harder somehow messmer was quite easy at journey 8 but now it feels insane

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      • Anonymous04 Jul 2025 02:26

        I have a wish that they put a option to start a fresh new game on ng+, every ng+ you beat you unlock that level to start a fresh file into.

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      • Anonymous02 Jul 2025 01:33

        lmao all that work and 10s of millions in budget money and the only changes they could have bothered to have happen in ng+ and beyond is just that the already obnoxious enemies have even more bloated stats, at least ds3 had enough creativity to add + versions of the rings throughout the first 2 ng+ runs

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      • Anonymous30 Jun 2025 23:19

        good morning

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      • Anonymous24 May 2025 14:04

        Holy damage, im getting 2 tapped here on NG+6

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      • Anonymous20 May 2025 11:40

        I beat consort radhan in NG, didnt go in the DLC in NG+, NG+1 and NG+2. Now my game is NG+3 and i am in the DLC, do i get DLC or DLC+ ?

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      • Anonymous12 May 2025 12:27

        kinda wish they would re-introduce the one thing they got right in darksouls 2 back into other souls like games with newgame+ new items or moved around enemies or introduced new things

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      • Anonymous28 Apr 2025 13:30

        I'm ng+4 and my grandma is ng+7, can we still co-op?

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      • Anonymous28 Apr 2025 11:50

        Something important to point out is that the BASE GAME ng+ also scales the enemies in the Land of Shadows. DLC+ is an extra layer of scalling they add on top of that.

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      • Anonymous19 Apr 2025 14:25

        What are the numbers for DLC+ ? Curious if it is worth running through again on NG+8 for the extra difficulty.

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      • Anonymous16 Apr 2025 13:50

        I'm about to go into NG+ but I will respec to 15 VGR and put my excessive FTH points in INT to weaken my castings with seals. Also I'll have to use +0 weapons, my luck is that I didn't upgrade some cool weapons. I am think of playing a two handed greatsword build from my DEX/FTH build.

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      • Anonymous15 Apr 2025 11:23

        This time Nepheli will be mine instead of over powered Dung Eater, I won't give Ranni the fingerslayer blade, Seluvis and Pidia, my bothers in sickness, will keep alive. I will finish the job of exterminating that merchants, I'll get all their bellbearings while clothed as Elemer. I'll let Melina Burn, I won't make Varré quest, my dragon eyes won't be overwritten this time! Mylenia... Mommylenia, Melania, Milena, Menardi... I will kill you on 1x1 without throwables this time, wait for your silly death.

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      • Anonymous15 Apr 2025 11:03

        I worked too hard like Kid Bengala to conquer all my 200 levels, rare equipments and consumables for just beginning another playthrough from the very beginning. I am decided to do NG+ but I don't like the idea of being over powered at first 70% of the game. I think I'm good for Montaintops of the giants and Miquella's Haligtree but very strong for earlier places even at NG+. I think me with 40 VGR and +25 uchigatana would make Margit weaker than a runebear. I am thinking of using Daedicar's Woe to cut my HP in half indirectly, going from 1450 to 725. I can even use some scorpion talisman and Marika's/Radagon's Scar/Sore talismans to weaken my char. I'll have to get other unapgraded weapons to play fairly. But from Montaintops, Consacrated Snow Fields, Farum Azula and Elphael, I think I will have to do my best again in terms of building. At late game, the dificulty is insane, even more at NG+ obviously. Godfrey, Maliketh, Placidusax and Malenia, I promise I will kill you all without summons this time.

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      • Anonymous14 Apr 2025 12:11

        is there any benefit to continuing doing ng+?? I'm at ng+62 and I feel like nothing has changed for a while

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      • Anonymous10 Apr 2025 14:12

        those level 150 stubborn bozos can go die 300 times with their one single boring ass build while i level up 300 times, enjoy a variety of builds and weapon's mix & matches in my playthrough

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      • Anonymous08 Apr 2025 12:12

        Don't listen to these losers saying stuff like you have to limit yourself to level 150. What if you want to run an 80/80/80 dex/int/arcane build with rivers of blood and sorceries wouldnt that be cool? All that matters is if your having fun while doing it

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      • Anonymous02 Apr 2025 13:48

        I mean nothing but constructive criticism when I say this, but please make sure to indicate exactly what bell bearings are included in the NG+ bell bearing list. For example, "Smithingstone Miner's Bell Bearing" should be listed as "Smithingstone Miner's Bell Bearing (1)" to avoid confusion.

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      • Anonymous26 Mar 2025 14:15

        I was expecting ng+7 to be hard the way people were talking about it but it's just not :( played thru the game 7 times for this

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      • Anonymous25 Mar 2025 01:27

        The worst part of NG+ is the open world enemies. In base NG, once your build is fully realized, it’s a lot of fun to go around challenging groups of enemies rather than a single boss, but in NG+7, every enemy does a fourth of your health in one attack, and they stunlock you to death, and there’s just no reason to ever fight enemies. It takes so much away from the open world.

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      • Anonymous20 Mar 2025 14:15

        if I beat the dlc on NG+0, then didn't enter the dlc until NG+7, am I still in DLC+, or does DLC+ go away cuz I didn't beat the dlc in the previous NG+ cycle?

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      • Anonymous13 Mar 2025 12:59

        i finished the game and started a ng+ and while being on bg+ i bought the DLC and defeated mohg. am i in ng+ oder DLC+?also i feel like im getting one shotted by everything but when watching other players fight the bosses i fight they take like half the damage would it be better to start a completly new run or just thug it out? (im stuck at mesmers p2 because every attack i cant dodge leads me to die a few seconds after getting hit)

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      • Anonymous28 Feb 2025 20:53

        okay some body tell me so if i do a ng+ and havent enter the dlc does the dlc still get harder or not

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      • Anonymous17 Feb 2025 11:56

        I’m currently on NG+4 and DLC+ and the enemy defense/attack power scaling feels absolutely ****ed in the lategame areas. I have +70 Vigor and wear pretty hefty armor but I’m still finding myself getting 2-shot (sometimes even 1-shot) by relatively basic enemies. This isn’t worth the slightly increased Rune drops, in my opinion!

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      • Anonymous14 Feb 2025 14:33

        Can someone explain to me the multiplayer scaling? The 3 more player with 2.7 multiplier? Is this data from another game? I’ve never seen a host summon 3 other yellows and ive played for 500 plus hours. They always have 2 yellow and 1 host. Unless Invader counts, but I doubt

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      • Anonymous10 Feb 2025 13:38

        This game not only should have boss rush like in Sekiro but ng+ exclusive QoL things like major graces that are automatically unlocked after finishing previous cycle, so you don't have to run across whole map all over again. Ah, and all of key items excluding quest items should be kept on ng+ but they are not for some reason.

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      • Anonymous10 Feb 2025 13:07

        How does the DLC + mean? Is it only scale up once? if we see the dlc boss in this wiki it is scale each ng up to ng7

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      • Anonymous06 Feb 2025 13:47

        if you leveled past 150 you didn't really beat ng+7

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      • Anonymous01 Feb 2025 14:25

        didnt cookbooks used to not carry over to ng+? i swear i used to always get the sleep pot cookbook for godskin duo every ng+ cycle, now i dont have to

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      • Anonymous29 Jan 2025 13:26

        Hi, i have defeated Radahn The Consort and like to play NG+. What or where do i find a way to reset to continue NG+. i am having an issue here at this point

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      • Anonymous14 Jan 2025 03:58

        Some informations are missing, like the fact that in NG+ the lava doesnt make you slower

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      • Anonymous13 Jan 2025 03:21

        I hope I get bored of the game before I reach new game+7 but then again I did beat sekiro without kuro's charm and demon bell on so I might be fine

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      • Anonymous13 Jan 2025 02:22

        Why does NG+7 Godrick have the same scaling as the NG Sewers?

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      • Anonymous13 Jan 2025 02:21

        Does anyone else think it's kinda stupid that the early game NG+ is scaled to around NG Caelid, despite the massive end game difficulty spike?

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      • Anonymous11 Jan 2025 13:58

        And in DLC+ if you summon a friend for fun it's not fun. I noticed the I did about 6000 damage with buffed ashes of war solo that same ash of buffed did less than 50% damage when one person was summoned. they really need to fix dlc+ as now it made the dlc even less enjoyable to play again. The dlc is already forgettable unlike of soulsborne games

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      • Anonymous08 Jan 2025 03:43

        Ng+: haha look how fast I killed margitNg+7: p a i n

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      • Anonymous19 Dec 2024 22:21

        i love the part when they made it so there's basically 0 incentive to go into ng+ ever unlike ds2 when you can just farm albinaurics ad infinitum for levels and have mules drop you weapons and armor whenever for absolutely no cost despite this game having the longest dev cycles of any of their games so far, thank you miyazaki

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      • Anonymous14 Dec 2024 12:55

        Nightreighn, elden ring 2 out 2025

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      • Rydreeck13 Dec 2024 10:18

        Fixed NG+ scaling table for NG+2 and beyond having their columns shifted.

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      • Anonymous20 Nov 2024 16:13

        Here’s some advice from an old crazy person that ran through the game 21 times: If you’re finding yourself taking huge chunks of damage, a shield will SAVE you. HARD. Not taking full damage is always better than taking full damage or risking a tricky dodge. Plus, if you have a greatshield, guard counters are an extremely viable option. Be like the underrated Lance mains of monster hunter. They may not do the most damage, but they’re not dead, and barely got scratched. You don’t even need a greatshield, a medium shield works wonders against anything that isn’t a massive gun. Even a small shield can block. You can block with your bare hands. If you use a colossal weapon, you can block with that too, and it’s actually sometimes on par with upper class greatshields!

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      • Anonymous26 Oct 2024 13:51

        Here's to hoping they fix the NG+7 enemy Physical/Standard damage double scaling issue before they eventually stop updating the game.

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      • Anonymous16 Oct 2024 12:57

        For those curious, based on my own playthroughs this is how the rune value of a single frog at the Palace Approach rune farm changes:NG: 2044NG1: 4088 (100% increase)NG2: 4497 (10% increase)NG3: 4599 (2.3% increase)NG4: 4906 (6.7% increase)NG5: 5008 (2.1% increase)NG6: 5110 (2% increase)Haven't gotten to NG7, will update the post if I do...If your goal is to complete enough NGs to optimize rune farming at Palace Approach so you can level your build quickly, I recommend NG4. Going beyond that has quickly diminishing returns, and you'll probably level up faster rune farming at NG4 than spending the equivalent time getting to NG5 or NG6 (where you'll only get marginally better returns).Note, these values don't include using the Golden Scarab or the Gold-Pickled Fowl Foot. I only wanted to see how each NG cycle increased the rune value, regardless of buffs used.

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      • DTPandemonium15 Oct 2024 05:01

        What the heck, I didnt know about DLC+ I'm gonna have to redo my ng+7 run I did on launch. I'll have to use bad armor and half upgraded weapons at the start though to emulate low scadu blessings since there is still no option to lower it on graces :(But who knows, maybe they made early bosses a lot stronger while later ones not as much like base game to offset scadu (probably not)

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      • DTPandemonium15 Oct 2024 05:01

        What the heck, I didnt know about DLC+ I'm gonna have to redo my ng+7 run I did on launch. I'll have to use bad armor and half upgraded weapons at the start though to emulate low scadu blessings since there is still no option to lower it on graces :(But who knows, maybe they made early bosses a lot stronger while later ones not as much like base game to offset scadu (probably not)

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      • Anonymous12 Oct 2024 16:06

        I would like to see in a future game another attempt at what dark souls 2 did but even more so. To have ng+ include entirely new and harder enemies, surprise boss encounters, entire areas that are sealed off on the first playthrough to name a few. Dark souls 2 went for it and were somewhat successful but it could really have been better.

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      • Anonymous12 Oct 2024 16:06

        how many times can you make a ng+?infinitie?so it just stops scaling after 7?

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      • Anonymous09 Oct 2024 16:06

        Ist bei NG+ 1 dann 1,05x oder wie oder ist es 1,1x oder was für ein Multiplikator hat NG+ 1

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      • Anonymous08 Oct 2024 09:19

        It's been 11 years and Dark Souls 2 still has the best NG+. This is so boring in comprison :yawn:

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      • Anonymous08 Oct 2024 09:07

        Ich wünsche das man auch wieder zurück kann (wenn man bei zweite Reise ist das man noch zu Erste Reise hin kann)

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      • Anonymous08 Oct 2024 09:07

        Journey 2 is the always the best. You usually are done all the gathering tasks but still have a long way to go with leveling up and you gain so many runes to speed things up and it’s just far more enjoyable. By journey 7 or 8 there’s almost no point in leveling anymore as you pay over a million runes for basically nothing.

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      • Anonymous01 Oct 2024 15:53

        I wish New Game + base game enemies scaled harder like in the DLC, it decreases the replay value to rolfstomp everything up to Mountaintop of the Giants

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      • Anonymous27 Sep 2024 12:40

        Ng+ scaling is bugged for enemy physical damage! It's doubled! Report it to fromsoft's customer support!

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      • Anonymous23 Sep 2024 18:20

        There’s actually a super convenient way to check what NG cycle you’re in, in case you lost track.First, complete the Leyndell sewer area in your current playthrough. Then go to your inventory and check how many Rainbow Stone Arrows (Fletched) you have. If you have 10, you’re in NG. At 20, it’s NG+. 30 at NG++. Etc.Overall a very cool quality of life feature that is too often overlooked. 10/10 game design.

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      • Anonymous04 Sep 2024 12:38

        I can’t seem to find the answer to my question so I guess I’ll just ask here. I started the dlc while I was in ng+4. From my understanding the dlc is scaled as if it were ng for the first playthrough. When I beat Redahn and came back to the dlc in ng+5 is the dlc scaled up to ng+5 or do I have to go through the dlc another 6 times to get the dlc to ng+7 difficulty?

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      • Anonymous02 Sep 2024 15:11

        If i start base game ng+ does it reset sote progress?

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      • Anonymous24 Aug 2024 14:36

        I was trying to test my poise out in ng+ 7 with all the we with all the guard counters not realising they take 40% less stance damage

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      • Rydreeck22 Aug 2024 14:32

        Just noted: NG+2 and beyond have their columns shifted. SpEffectID values are the health values (how tf are SpEffectID multiplied by something?), health values are the defense ones, defense are resistance ones, resistance are poise dmg taken, poise values are atk rating, atk rating values are stamina damage, and stamina damage column's values are entirely wrong and should be removed.

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      • Rydreeck22 Aug 2024 13:07

        Were the base scaling and the NG+ scaling tables datamined or estimated? My calculations seem off in many scenarios I tested.

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      • Anonymous19 Aug 2024 12:31

        The scaling table does not matchup. It seems there is an extra column since it makes no sense to multiply the area id. Does anyone know where the mistake is?

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      • Anonymous15 Aug 2024 13:51

        bell bearing have carry not leav after if you usit

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      • Anonymous12 Aug 2024 20:19

        Good lord DLC+ is not a joke. Played through it at Scadutree level 20 on NG+7 before, thought it wasn't that hard. Playing through it again having defeated the final boss I am getting my ass handed to me left and right.

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      • Anonymous10 Aug 2024 15:19

        I think now ng+ does increase the runes drop from enemies in the dlc. The black goal knight gives 70k runes right after the release but now it gives 140k, both of my characters are in ng+1, no dlc+

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      • Anonymous08 Aug 2024 15:30

        I think DLC+ double runes obtained from killing bosses.I've killed Radahn in NG0 then in NG+7, and it gave me 1257000 runes (the wiki says 637500 for ng+7 alone).

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      • Anonymous23 Jul 2024 07:10

        The table says that NG+7 has a scaling modifier of health of 1.3x but the example of Radagon's NG+7 health uses 1.4x? This makes no sense

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      • Anonymous19 Jul 2024 13:54

        Can the DLC be started again on the next journey without completing the main game? In other words, are the DLC and the main game on the same journey? Something on this page made me believe I could just go back to the cocoon to restart the DLC, but clearly, nope.

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      • Anonymous16 Jul 2024 12:55

        Something is up with NG+ in the DLC. I took 2 characters; one on NG and one on NG+ and played through the DLC. I fully completed it with my NG character with LV 20 scadutree upgrade, and made it to Messemer with my NG+ character with LV 14 scadutree upgrade. When I went into NG+ with my first character, I found the enemies were essentially reset to their original strength scaling, as if I had no scadu upgrade despite still having it. My other NG+ character is still dealing more damage at only scadu 14, and the enemies drop more runes despite both characters both being on NG+.It's as if my NG character lost all scadu benefits upon reaching NG+, since all the enemies are harder than my other NG+ character, but I'm receiving roughly 15% less runes despite it being more difficult.What's going on?

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      • Anonymous15 Jul 2024 10:41

        In shadow of the Erdtree, how does NG+ effect the DLC. Is it the same as base game? Thank you

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      • Anonymous15 Jul 2024 06:09

        You have conflicting info, you note the patch that made bell bearings turned into the twin maiden husk stay, but you still say those things are lost when going into ng+

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      • Anonymous15 Jul 2024 03:43

        So at NG+7 stance breaking build need to do 66,(6)% more stance damage but bleed build needs to do only 9% more status build up. Also since bleed deals percentage damage and enemies have 45+% more health it actually becomes more effective. Very unfair compared to base difficulty.

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      • Anonymous11 Jul 2024 23:19

        Do the scadutree fragments respawn in the ng+ even if you collected them? Iam level 18 and dont want to check which ones iam missing so i hope i can get easy to 20 with the ones in ng+

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      • Anonymous11 Jul 2024 12:58

        Does it remove blood eyes from Varre?

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      • Anonymous09 Jul 2024 15:22

        just me or the scaling for ng+ in DLC is much higher than base game? i was expecting it to be easy starting it with 18 scadutree blessing, but everything is still two shotting me

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      • Anonymous02 Jul 2024 20:24

        It's hilarious that NG+ enemy damage scaling has been bugged since launch. From Software is the new Bethesda when it comes to bug fixing.

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      • Anonymous28 Jun 2024 02:37

        do you keep the blessings from the dlc on ng+?

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      • Anonymous27 Jun 2024 19:01

        Does the DLC scale rune drop with NG+1? Seems like it should, but I'm getting the same amount of runes that a first playthrough gets.

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      • Anonymous24 Jun 2024 22:41

        It took me so much time to finish my first playthough, and I stopped playing so many times, that I am enjoying NG+ a lot just by revisiting the beggining of the games actually knowing how to play and what I am doing. But I can see a seasoned Souls player, or even someone who powered through the game, not finding NG+ very appealing.

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      • Anonymous23 Jun 2024 15:44

        do runes from bosses increase after ng+7?

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      • Anonymous20 Jun 2024 17:53

        Do they fix ng+7 scaling bug in the upcoming dlc patch?

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      • Anonymous20 Jun 2024 17:20

        All of my characters are ng+ am I cooked for the dlc? Or do I level up my level one character cuz I've already killed all the bosses

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      • Anonymous18 Jun 2024 20:55

        NG+billion

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      • Anonymous17 Jun 2024 13:19

        people say the DLC is meant for the endgame and I've seen comments saying level 100-130 or up to 150 is ideal, but even if you exceed that it still will probably be pretty hardI started NG+ on like 175 because I wanted to cosplay as Radagon , now it's kinda ****ed because I can't go back lol, so I will most probably just start the DLC on a slightly increased difficulty (mind you this is my first souls-like)

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      • Anonymous17 Jun 2024 04:15

        what would be the ideal lvl to start the DLC on NG+1?

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      • Anonymous15 Jun 2024 02:18

        how do i tell what ng level my character is on? its been a while and i forget

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      • Anonymous10 Jun 2024 14:35

        i hope there is a mod to eliminate the poise dmg reductiongiven how quickly it regens, and how significant breakpoints r, it quickly renders the stance mechanic completely uselessjourney 8 u need to do almost twice as much poise dmg? probably more due to partial regen, and higher enemy attack rate too... come on

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      • Anonymous22 May 2024 04:12

        The poise damage debuff starting in NG+2 does get annoying, but it makes sense. Enemies have much more HP and defense in NG+7, and it's not likely you're doing that much more damage than you were whenever your build hit its peak in NG or NG+1. While it's not an exact science, less poise damage per attack over la longer battle should mean a similar number of total stance breaks. I think they just didn't want 50% more staggering to occur because a boss now has that much more HP to work through.

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      • Anonymous21 May 2024 02:24

        Question: Sorry if i just missed it but do talismans scale like in dark souls NG+?

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      • Anonymous20 May 2024 03:45

        The 40% stance damage reduction on +7 is a bit crappy, if the Physick tear completely negated that I wouldn't even be mad as it'd be a pretty neat counter to a hard mode buff to all enemies and bosses, but alas it only grants 30% more Stance damage for 30 seconds.However, add Cragblade on top of that and you also get another 10%, making it 40% in total.Completely negating the +7 stance resistance for half a minute with both active.

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      • Anonymous11 May 2024 11:27

        It is SO STUPID that previously activated summoning pools get disabled when you go into NG+. I really enjoy the quick-play like option of the "near and far" feature, but it feels awful essentially losing quick-play just to reset your solo world.

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      • Anonymous04 May 2024 01:54

        My incentive for Ng+ in previous games has always been the red phantoms. New enemy locations.. without it then it's pointless. I'm just asking to get one shot by everything. Melania still isn't defeated to say the least.

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      • Anonymous02 May 2024 11:38

        NG+ should enable player get invade in solo as well. you have max flask , all item , spell , etc.just add more cooldown than co-op invade.

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      • Anonymous30 Apr 2024 11:34

        I wish ER had better incentives to play NG+. Right now it's being able to get two of a unique weapon so you can powerstance them, that's it. Admittedly, I think it's harder to make open-world non-linear games as replayable. With a linear game, you MUST defeat these enemies to move forward, so there's a clear objective and reward for playing. I also think we're overpowered in NG+. It's fun to start a new game and wreck these enemies that gave you so much trouble before, but that fun doesn't last long... It's not fun to no longer have obstacles. Dark Souls 2, for all its faults, did NG+ right. There were new invaders, a few fun boss change-ups, and new weapons via new boss soul drops. It would be great if ER made a small DLC that made NG+ more than just doubling unique weapons and PS achievement hunting.

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      • Anonymous01 Apr 2024 13:03

        Why does the chart show enemies having less resistance in NG+2 onward. That can't be correct

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      • Anonymous31 Mar 2024 13:00

        Which level do you advice me to begin a ng+2?

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      • Anonymous25 Mar 2024 03:48

        Wiki page: “do this before ng+”Me who is on ng+6 and hasn’t done any of those things;

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      • Anonymous17 Mar 2024 02:50

        how do I know what ng number am i?

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      • Anonymous24 Feb 2024 01:49

        Wiki says some bosses like Fire Giant or Mohg have lovered status resistance in NG+. Is that bug in game or just missinformation?

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      • Anonymous07 Feb 2024 02:44

        My only complaint is that the early parts of the game are still too easy for your high-level character, even on ng+7. Might do some good to scale the early enemies harder.

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      • Anonymous31 Jan 2024 03:04

        It is impossible to use more than 2 of the same weapon at the same time (yes I know you can equip up to 6 of the same weapon if you really want to, but you can't -use- more than 2 of them at once), and more than 1 of everything else at the same time. Since you can get everything bar 2 talismans in one run, and since the runes dropped by enemies basically flatlines after NG+2, there is no reason at all to go any further than NG+2 IMO. If you're at the end of the second run on a toon, you may as well stay there and just make a new toon for any new runs, in all honesty.

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      • Anonymous26 Jan 2024 03:22

        Is there a reason to go to ng+? No new enemies, no new items or mechanics like dark souls 2 sotfs, everything is exactly the same

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