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Member Oct 25, 2017 19,011 There isn't a pervert character in Fullmetal Alchemist. Or really in any of the Jojo parts. Or in Hunter x Hunter. I fact I can think of a load of shonen manga with no perverted characters.Deleted member 52442
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Banned Jan 24, 2019 10,774 i don't know but it's trash, the little dweeb from my hero academia was the last straw for me. never found it funny and it's outdated as fuck with changing timesDeleted member 52442
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Banned Jan 24, 2019 10,774Mars People said: Or in Hunter x Hunter. Click to expand... Click to shrink...You're forgetting a prominent pedophile in the cast
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Member Oct 25, 2017 26,904Kegels said: You're forgetting a prominent pedophile in the cast Click to expand... Click to shrink...Yeah but that's clearly different. He's a major antagonist and it's not used for fanservice like most of these examples in the thread.
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Member Oct 25, 2017 19,011Kegels said: You're forgetting a prominent pedophile in the cast Click to expand... Click to shrink...Am I? Oh right Hisoka. Eh I'm not sure that counts. He's also a violent psychopath who isn't played for fun or comedy ever. You aren't supposed to root for him.
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Banned Oct 29, 2017 7,180Moara said: Yeah but that's clearly different. He's a major antagonist and it's not used for fanservice like most of these examples in the thread. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Hisoka is used for fan service a few times, his naked butt or abs are usually at least once per arc
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Member Oct 25, 2017 26,904Edgar said: Hisoka is used for fan service a few times, his naked butt or abs are usually at least once per arc Click to expand... Click to shrink...Himself sure, a couple times. That's still clearly different than what this thread is talking about, where there is a perverted character that we're supposed to root for that puts other characters in fanservicey situations for the audience to enjoy.
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Member Nov 3, 2017 14,311 Kon annoyed me with his lecherous antics.Edgar
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Banned Oct 29, 2017 7,180Moara said: Himself sure, a couple times. That's still clearly different than what this thread is talking about, where there is a perverted character that we're supposed to root for that puts other characters in fanservicey situations for the audience to enjoy. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Dunno a single soul who roots for mineta tho
DragonSJG
Banned Mar 4, 2019 14,341MochaKoffee said: Happosai is the capital W Worst. No contest.Fuck this guy Also, Sanji was flanderized so badClick to expand... Click to shrink...
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Member Oct 25, 2017 26,904Edgar said: Dunno a single soul who roots for mineta tho Click to expand... Click to shrink...They exist unfortunately
Devil
Member Oct 25, 2017 3,590 Yeah, as a One Piece fan, Sanji's pervy behaviour is annoying, disappointing and the joke has been played out anyway but it keeps on happening. It's a shame cause I like the character.GraphicViolets
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Member Oct 25, 2017 985TickleMeElbow said: "Perverted uncle" is a common trope in Japan period lol. It's because everyone knows that one "perverted uncle". Click to expand... Click to shrink...I normally hate when people say "media is for escapism so keep the real life issues out of it" but imo thats the case here :P
DragonSJG
Banned Mar 4, 2019 14,341andymcc said: Mousse and Shampoo's grandmother for me. The "first season" of the anime is pretty perfect (though not w/o issues). Click to expand... Click to shrink...She's only Shampoos
Javier
Member Oct 27, 2017 3,754 ChileMochaKoffee said: Happosai is the capital W Worst. No contest.Happosai is such a shit character that when a tv station in my country was airing the show (afternoon time), they got a fine from the goverment because in one episode Ranma, as a girl, passed out for whatever reason (i think she drank something if my memory is correct), happosai being alone with her was going to grope her and Akane kicks him to the stratosphere in the last second, you know, your typical "comedy bit". However, the scene didn't played out as your typical "haha, i'm just doing some pervy stuff, just beat the shit out of me and everything is fine", it really shown a piece of shit who was going to sexually abuse a girl who had no means to defend herself, even for me who, at that time, was used to watch in anime those kind of scenes, didn't feel right at all. He should be erased from the universe along with the small dude of my hero academia.Click to expand... Click to shrink...
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Member Oct 25, 2017 19,221 How else am I going to get my jimmies rustledAstral
Member Oct 27, 2017 35,284 I don't understand it either. I also don't understand big tittied 15 year olds in anime or why women in One Piece grew enormous breasts over time.HustleBun
Member Nov 12, 2017 6,145 Thank you for this OP, it really pisses me off and even turns me off to an anime if it's bad enough. Dragon Ball/Z/Super Roshi. At it's worst in the og Dragon Ball, he's handsy, he oggles teenagers and it's vile. He is grabby in Z but has less screen time so it falls to the background. Super had him "train" his perversion away but used an insanely problematic episode to get there, where he sexually assaults Puar (who has transformed into a human woman to train him) as they are trapped in a room together. Naruto Jiraiya. Naruto uses a "sexy jutus" to appear as a nude woman as a means to manipulate adults and even uses this to goad Jiraiya into training him, which is gross. Jiraiya is also introduced as a character who peeps on bath houses and writes erotic novels. His perversion is treated as a character flaw, Naruto brands him as Ero-Senin/Perverted Hermit (Pervy Sage in the dub) for the rest of the series and in the canon, the perverted moments are dropped wholesale instead focusing on other elements of Jiraiya's personality, his history with other ninja, etc. The series growing out of this joke was appreciated. Though there is one last gag at the end. As a throwback to the original series, Naruto does a sexy jutsu while fighting the final villain but it's a yaoi harem.The Adder said: Brook is the pervert in One Piece. (Actually, Oda split up the Shonen pervert between two characters, really. The actions went to Brook and the reactions went to Sanji.) Click to expand... Click to shrink...NOPE. One Piece One Piece does the opposite of Naruto. It gets more perverted as the series progresses. Sanji is initially introduced as a likable chef with a penchant for kicking and a passion for food. He believes that no one deserves to go hungry, no matter who they are or what they've done and it drives his character. A passing joke is made that he flirts with all the women at the restaurant no matter the age, shape or status and he has an immediate crush on Nami when they first meet. In the next two arcs, he does a cartoony squiggly body wave with heart-eyes every time he sees Nami, he starts calling her "my sweet" and "my little swan". Then they introduce Robin, who Sanji repeats these behaviors with. Then Sanji is shown peaking in on women bathing. Then Sanji starts obsessing with Nami's body, comments and stares at her body when she is in a bikini and starts yelling at her when she puts on a jacket (and keeps bringing it up). Then he starts discriminating women over their age and body shape (so much for that comment in the restaurant). It somehow keeps getting worse, Sanji becomes a full-on nose-bleed pervert trope and has an entire arc about why it's his sole motivation in life to be able to "perv on women in the bathroom". Every character moment with him has to do with him oggling a woman, hitting on Nami and Robin, trying to spy on women changing or bathing or even wanting a special power so he can do these things. That's not even to speak of his incel/MRA status as a self-described chivalrous gentleman who won't fight a woman or let a woman go into battle. I fucking hate him. Brook and Frankie are also treated as perverts but they are nowhere near Sanji's level. Brook asks women to see their panties or inquires as to the color of their undergarments as an introduction whenever he meets them for the first time. It really takes away from his character as he isn't presented as a "pervert trope" beyond this. Oda seems to use it as evidence of a "gentleman skeleton who is very rude", grouping it in with Brook inviting himself over dinner, burping/farting, asking strangers to borrow money. Frankie calls himself a pervert but won't hit on women or peep, he gets his underwear stolen through no fault of his own and is called a pervert by townspeople. He later hears enemies calling their vehicles a "convert" and insecurely thinks they are calling him a pervert but so far (I'm at Sabaody) he thankfully isn't an actual pervert. Beyond that, tons of side characters are perverts, one character in Thriller Bark goes to some sexual assault territory multiple times and Oda keeps increasing the chest size and decreasing the waists of his characters. One Piece fans keep warning me that all of this is going to keep getting worse so I'm wondering if I bail eventually as I did with MHA. My Hero Academia Mineta is garbage and gets worse to the point of full-on sexual assault. Between him and Bakugo, I had to bail. I tried to like MHA, it had a lot going for it but the perverted stuff and the series portrayal of women is horrendous. Last edited: Jul 10, 2020
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Member Oct 25, 2017 47,905 These characters are just fucking trash and do nothing but bring down everything else with them.mikeamizzle
Member Oct 25, 2017 3,058jett said: These characters are just fucking trash and do nothing but bring down everything else with them. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Pretty much. Juvenile is being kind.
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Member Oct 25, 2017 215MochaKoffee said: Happosai is the capital W Worst. No contest.The King of Perverts, also the funniest character in the Latinamerican Dub.Click to expand... Click to shrink...
JuicyPlayer
Member Feb 8, 2018 8,872Mars People said: Am I? Oh right Hisoka. Eh I'm not sure that counts. He's also a violent psychopath who isn't played for fun or comedy ever. You aren't supposed to root for him. Click to expand... Click to shrink...I never got the impression he was into Gon or Killua "like that". More like getting turned on by the Power of his opponent. That's why he also stalks the leader of the spiders.
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Member Nov 12, 2017 6,145JuicyPlayer said: I never got the impression he was into Gon or Killua "like that". More like getting turned on by the Power of his opponent. That's why he also stalks the leader of the spiders. Click to expand... Click to shrink...I used to think that it was a sexual urge brought on by the power of his opponent. ...but then there's that scene of him staring at Killua and Gon's butts and licking his chops. The camera zooms in to remove any confusion over what Hisoka is interested in. Kind of disturbing.
andymcc
Member Oct 25, 2017 28,647 Columbus, OHDragonSJG said: She's only Shampoos Click to expand... Click to shrink...i meant both Mousse and Shampoo's grandmother as characters. I forgot Shampoo's grandmother's name and i dislike the character enough to not look her up lmfao
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Banned Oct 25, 2017 3,065 Sanji killed my interest in One Piece. He starts off as such a cool character - cool design, laid back attitude, problems with authority. But as soon as a woman shows up he turns into a creep. It didn't help that the writer has Q&A columns where he and teenage boys frequently perv over the female characters.JuicyPlayer
Member Feb 8, 2018 8,872HustleBun said: I used to think that it was a sexual urge brought on by the power of his opponent. ...but then there's that scene of him staring at Killua and Gon's butts and licking his chops. The camera zooms in to remove any confusion over what Hisoka is interested in. Kind of disturbing. Click to expand... Click to shrink...I actually found Gon's relationship with Palm kind of weird too. Shes in her 20s trying to date an 11 year old?
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Member Oct 28, 2017 4,955 They're meant to be funny to grade school and Jr high students. The authors,audience, and editors seem to think they're funny. Or like many tropes itvis so ingrained it's expected and accepted.HustleBun
Member Nov 12, 2017 6,145JuicyPlayer said: I actually found Gon's relationship with Palm kind of weird too. Shes in her 20s trying to date an 11 year old? Click to expand... Click to shrink...Yeah...she's obsessed with him too. There are a few weird adult-underage child love/lust stories peppered throughout HxH. It's my only real issue with the series in terms of problematic content and I don't understand why it's a theme.
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Member Oct 28, 2017 6,445 This is a trope I never understood or why people found so funny even as a kid and neither did my friends.Gentlemen
Member Oct 25, 2017 10,877 Because the audience for anime remains dominated by single men who don't care if the characters behave like real people. They demand Japan's equivalent of the Commedia dell'arte and need that male gaze catered to at all times.HustleBun
Member Nov 12, 2017 6,145HustleBun said: One Piece One Piece does the opposite of Naruto. It gets more perverted as the series progresses. Sanji is initially introduced as a likable chef with a penchant for kicking and a passion for food. He believes that no one deserves to go hungry, no matter who they are or what they've done and it drives his character. A passing joke is made that he flirts with all the women at the restaurant no matter the age, shape or status and he has an immediate crush on Nami when they first meet. In the next two arcs, he does a cartoony squiggly body wave with heart-eyes every time he sees Nami, he starts calling her "my sweet" and "my little swan". Then they introduce Robin, who Sanji repeats these behaviors with. Then Sanji is shown peaking in on women bathing. Then Sanji starts obsessing with Nami's body, comments and stares at her body when she is in a bikini and starts yelling at her when she puts on a jacket (and keeps bringing it up). Then he starts discriminating women over their age and body shape (so much for that comment in the restaurant). It somehow keeps getting worse, Sanji becomes a full-on nose-bleed pervert trope and has an entire arc about why it's his sole motivation in life to be able to "perv on women in the bathroom". Every character moment with him has to do with him oggling a woman, hitting on Nami and Robin, trying to spy on women changing or bathing or even wanting a special power so he can do these things. That's not even to speak of his incel/MRA status as a self-described chivalrous gentleman who won't fight a woman or let a woman go into battle. I fucking hate him. Brook and Frankie are also treated as perverts but they are nowhere near Sanji's level. Brook asks women to see their panties or inquires as to the color of their undergarments as an introduction whenever he meets them for the first time. It really takes away from his character as he isn't presented as a "pervert trope" beyond this. Oda seems to use it as evidence of a "gentleman skeleton who is very rude", grouping it in with Brook inviting himself over dinner, burping/farting, asking strangers to borrow money. Frankie calls himself a pervert but won't hit on women or peep, he gets his underwear stolen through no fault of his own and is called a pervert by townspeople. He later hears enemies calling their vehicles a "convert" and insecurely thinks they are calling him a pervert but so far (I'm at Sabaody) he thankfully isn't an actual pervert. Beyond that, tons of side characters are perverts, one character in Thriller Bark goes to some sexual assault territory multiple times and Oda keeps increasing the chest size and decreasing the waists of his characters. One Piece fans keep warning me that all of this is going to keep getting worse so I'm wondering if I bail eventually as I did with MHA. Click to expand... Click to shrink...
Kuraudo said: Sanji killed my interest in One Piece. He starts off as such a cool character - cool design, laid back attitude, problems with authority. But as soon as a woman shows up he turns into a creep. It didn't help that the writer has Q&A columns where he and teenage boys frequently perv over the female characters. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Glad it's not just me. Thank you. I got passively questioned about this a few times but for the reasons quoted above it is actively ruining my enjoyment of One Piece to the point that I might drop it completely.
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Member Oct 28, 2017 10,671 As far as pervert characters in action manga goes, I think it all goes back to Roshi. It was already a popular type in comedy manga though. and it'd be hard to track down the origins of that, but Dragonball going from comedy to action focus and then blowing up in popularity basically transplanted that character type to shounen action manga. You can see that other action manga from the 80s didn't really have that type (Saint Seiya, Jojo, FotNS...). it was something that became common after Dragonball specifically.Vincent Alexander
Member Oct 26, 2017 22,307 As someone who only watched the first few arcs of One Piece, it's crazy to read that Sanji turns into a pervert. It's such a 180 from his character as I've seen it so far.Nama
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Member Nov 2, 2017 1,822 All media is full of tropes to an extent but Japanese media seems to lean in mega hard into tropes. Doesn't matter if its good or bad long as its a known entity. Sucks but don't think were gonna be changing any minds in Japan anytime soon.viral
Member Oct 25, 2017 6,071 I don't think Bleach has any either. Or Yu Yu Hakusho.Vincent Alexander said: As someone who only watched the first few arcs of One Piece, it's crazy to read that Sanji turns into a pervert. It's such a 180 from his character as I've seen it so far. Click to expand... Click to shrink...It's been a while since I've read/watched One Piece, but I remember Sanji perving on Nami from the start.
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Banned Oct 27, 2017 4,168 I finally decided to start watching one of these long running animes, because I have nothing else to watch. I started with the original Dragon Ball from 1986. I'm quite shocked at how perverted it is. I'm 10 episodes in, and every single episode has had some gag revolving around sexually assaulting Bulma, basically. The worst ones were from that turtle hermit guy who wouldn't give Bulma his dragon ball until she showed him her panties, and he wouldn't put out a fire until she let him touch her boobs. She's only 16 too. I think I might give up on Dragon Ball because of this, actually. Does anyone have a recommendation for a long running anime that isn't perverted, and also is a little more targeted towards adults? Or does the not exist? I'd settle with just not perverted.Vincent Alexander
Member Oct 26, 2017 22,307viral said: I don't think Bleach has any either. Or Yu Yu Hakusho. It's been a while since I've read/watched One Piece, but I remember Sanji perving on Nami from the start. Click to expand... Click to shrink...I believe the stuffed bear has some pervy moments, but thankfully, his character isn't 100% dedicated to just hitting on the women. As for One Piece, it's been years so maybe I'm just misremembering.
compo said: I finally decided to start watching one of these long running animes, because I have nothing else to watch. I started with the original Dragon Ball from 1986. I'm quite shocked at how perverted it is. I'm 10 episodes in, and every single episode has had some gag revolving around sexually assaulting Bulma, basically. The worst ones were from that turtle hermit guy who wouldn't give Bulma his dragon ball until she showed him her panties, and he wouldn't put out a fire until she let him touch her boobs. She's only 16 too. I think I might give up on Dragon Ball because of this, actually. Does anyone have a recommendation for a long running anime that isn't perverted, and also is a little more targeted towards adults? Or does the not exist? I'd settle with just not perverted. Click to expand... Click to shrink...I'd recommend the new Hunter x Hunter or Bleach. However, while Bleach doesn't have dedicated perv characters (that I recall), it does have a handful of characters with absolutely atrocious designs meant to show off T&A.
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Banned Mar 4, 2019 14,341compo said: I finally decided to start watching one of these long running animes, because I have nothing else to watch. I started with the original Dragon Ball from 1986. I'm quite shocked at how perverted it is. I'm 10 episodes in, and every single episode has had some gag revolving around sexually assaulting Bulma, basically. The worst ones were from that turtle hermit guy who wouldn't give Bulma his dragon ball until she showed him her panties, and he wouldn't put out a fire until she let him touch her boobs. She's only 16 too. I think I might give up on Dragon Ball because of this, actually. Does anyone have a recommendation for a long running anime that isn't perverted, and also is a little more targeted towards adults? Or does the not exist? I'd settle with just not perverted. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Saint Seiya Also DBZ has zero of this stuff
Lowblood
Member Oct 30, 2017 6,863 It's a rite of passage in One Piece to like Sanji and progress to not liking him later. :P But yeah, that would be the first thing I'd change about the manga if I could.HustleBun said: Frankie calls himself a pervert but won't hit on women or peep, he gets his underwear stolen through no fault of his own and is called a pervert by townspeople. He later hears enemies calling their vehicles a "convert" and insecurely thinks they are calling him a pervert but so far (I'm at Sabaody) he thankfully isn't an actual pervert. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Yeah, Franky is a pervert in the "Goes into public in his underwear" sense and not the creeping on women sense. Plus the hentai/henshin joke (which I guess became convert/pervert in English). There is a part in Dressrosa where he and a villain are trying to "out-manliness" each other that ends up being somewhat misogynistic, but otherwise Franky is generally handled well (though some of it might just be that he gets less screentime than the other Strawhats).
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Member Apr 16, 2018 55,547 Many times is for comedy, but I don't think it's funny unless it's BrookEddyLovesTunaRolls
Member Oct 27, 2017 6,629 Mineta completely turned me off hero academia and that one dude with the highlights from kimetsu no yaiba almost ruined that one for me. But I get it people actually like those kinds of characters and anime just isn't for me anymore.Deleted member 11985
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Banned Oct 27, 2017 4,168DragonSJG said: Saint Seiya Also DBZ has zero of this stuff Click to expand... Click to shrink...Cool, Saint Seiya sounds interesting, and I see it has 300 episodes across a few series. I'll switch to that one for now. About DBZ, I might try coming back to Dragon Ball again sometime. I do like the concept of it, with the whole power levels and whatnot.
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Member Oct 28, 2017 10,973 Because the yarashii hentai ojisan is considered to be funny to many Japanese. The late Shimura Ken, probably Japan's biggest comedian of all time, his entire schtick was the perverted creepy dude.Deleted member 52442
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Banned Jan 24, 2019 10,774Pitivity said: Mineta completely turned me off hero academia and that one dude with the highlights from kimetsu no yaiba almost ruined that one for me. But I get it people actually like those kinds of characters and anime just isn't for me anymore. Click to expand... Click to shrink...forgot about, absolutely pathetic character trait there
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Banned Oct 27, 2017 4,168Vincent Alexander said: I'd recommend the new Hunter x Hunter or Bleach. However, while Bleach doesn't have dedicated perv characters (that I recall), it does have a handful of characters with absolutely atrocious designs meant to show off T&A. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Woops, I missed this. Thanks, Hunter x Hunter seems cool too. I'll either watch that or Saint Seiya.
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Member Oct 27, 2017 14,294 It's so damn annoying when shows have these characters and try to pretend they're heroic. Mineta can fuck off the planet along with Bakugo and MHA would be a vastly better series. I have nothing against sexy characters or settings in shows (In fact, if there's a fantasy battle show with clear adults who are sexy or sexy stuff happens, GO FOR IT!), but when the characters are freaking teenagers and there are lines being crossed it sours great shows massively, all to appeal to slobbering morons. And the worst part is that it limits demographic appeal, and it becomes a spiralling cycle of appealing to trash tastes except when a mega hit show emerges every couple of years or so.Sordid Plebeian
Member Oct 26, 2017 22,288 From my limited understanding, Japan has always found perversion to be a point of humor in media. In Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress, a film from the 50's, there's a scene that is intended to be humorous where two characters discuss drawing straws to rape a sleeping woman. So it seems it has a long history and did not just start with anime. It's also the #1 reason I struggle with a lot of animes, especially My Hero Academia; I don't wanna watch a show that constantly sexualizes underage high school girls and see some weirdo pervert get handsy with them.Desi
Member Oct 30, 2017 4,637teruterubozu said: Because the yarashii hentai ojisan is considered to be funny to many Japanese. The late Shimura Ken, probably Japan's biggest comedian of all time, his entire schtick was the perverted creepy dude. Click to expand... Click to shrink...This. The main audience kind of goes along with it. May even be someone like that in their friend group.
Reym
Member Jul 15, 2019 2,843Devil said: Yeah, as a One Piece fan, Sanji's pervy behaviour is annoying, disappointing and the joke has been played out anyway but it keeps on happening. It's a shame cause I like the character. Click to expand... Click to shrink...Same. It's frustrating because the non-pervy Sanji scenes are some of my favorites in the series...but then the perv stuff always pops back in...
Fubar
Member Oct 25, 2017 3,071 95% of the time Mineta annoys me. 5% he has me laughing hard. What sucks about his character in particular in comparison to Jiraiya/Roshi is that those two are otherwise useful. they're mentors to the main character and can hold their own in a fight. They eventually became characatures doing nothing but perving, but they had episodes at a time of being otherwise useful. They were important to the plot. Mineta's entire character is being a perv and while he has had his fighting moments, 99% of his screen time is being a perv. That is why he sucks in particular. Prev- 1
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