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2021 LG OLED C1 + G1 Owner's Thread + FAQ - No Price Talk Tags 2022 c1 calibration calibration settings dolby vision firmware update issue issue---help!!! issues with lg oled lg lg c1 lg g1 lg oled lgc1 mount oled oled 55 reset screen technical support tv vertical banding wallmount Jump to Latest 2,581 - 2,600 of 24,316 Posts 1 130 of 1216

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Classy Tech

· Registered Onkyo NR7100, 5.1.4 Infinity Primus + SVS PC-2000Pro Joined Jun 2, 2010 · 4,541 Posts

Jeffery Sanders said: Depends on your version of accurate, the 48 inch C1 I received is under 3 Delta e in SDR...just by setting the WB and the color to 50. Click to expand...

We know the 77 has a different white point than the smaller sizes, so maybe the 48 is the same since they come from the same glass. B

BRAKKUS1

· Registered Joined Jan 6, 2016 · 246 Posts While it is cool, finding out stuff like the 'G' hack, trouble is C owners that do this, won't rest easy, not 100% knowing when/if things might be patched out, or even if it really is doing what you think it is.....buying a G, guarantees a G

Jeffery Sanders

· Registered Joined Dec 28, 2020 · 153 Posts

BRAKKUS1 said: While it is cool, finding out stuff like the 'G' hack, trouble is C owners that do this, won't rest easy, not 100% knowing when/if things might be patched out, or even if it really is doing what you think it is.....buying a G, guarantees a G Click to expand...

It's easy enough to block firmware updates in the settings in that case. If they want to force a update somehow you just would need to block them via your router. B

BerserkDoomguy

· Registered Joined Aug 5, 2016 · 469 Posts

BRAKKUS1 said: While it is cool, finding out stuff like the 'G' hack, trouble is C owners that do this, won't rest easy, not 100% knowing when/if things might be patched out, or even if it really is doing what you think it is.....buying a G, guarantees a G Click to expand...

You can just turn off the auto update function but I would question their ability to patch this in the first place. They would have to have a way to check which TV you have and also differentiate their firmware for the G1 and C1. Right now they appear to be pushing identical firmware to both.

Micker

· Registered Joined Nov 15, 2005 · 1,167 Posts Again, there are probably a handful of people who will actually make these changes, hardly something LG needs to worry about. Just sad they couldn't make the C1 Evo to begin with,

Jeffery Sanders

· Registered Joined Dec 28, 2020 · 153 Posts

BerserkDoomguy said: You can just turn off the auto update function but I would question their ability to patch this in the first place. They would have to have a way to check which TV you have and also differentiate their firmware for the G1 and C1. Right now they appear to be pushing identical firmware to both. Click to expand...

^this. My post above proves its the same fw pretty much as there are multiple calibrations which you get just by switching to the other set and it retains the previous by reverting back to the original settings. I speculate there could be a difference in thermal padding (that could justify cost possibly), but we need a FLIR to test that.

Micker said: Again, there are probably a handful of people who will actually make these changes, hardly something LG needs to worry about. Just sad they couldn't make the C1 Evo to begin with, Click to expand...

I'd say that depends on use case...PC gamers almost always want to squeeze that last bit of performance out.

Diego94

· Registered Joined Apr 29, 2021 · 153 Posts which white point d65 do you use for calabrition, because I use calman's XY point by default B

Bill Broderick

· Registered Joined Nov 15, 2000 · 3,649 Posts

BerserkDoomguy said: You can just turn off the auto update function but I would question their ability to patch this in the first place. They would have to have a way to check which TV you have and also differentiate their firmware for the G1 and C1. Right now they appear to be pushing identical firmware to both. Click to expand...

Serial Number should allow them to do it.

Classy Tech

· Registered Onkyo NR7100, 5.1.4 Infinity Primus + SVS PC-2000Pro Joined Jun 2, 2010 · 4,541 Posts Anyone in the Xbox preview program have access to any Dolby Vision games? When I had the C1 I didn't think to check this. Does LG have a game picture mode in Dolby Vision? On Sony it seems to only be vivid, Dolby Vision bright, and Dolby Vision dark. That would render gaming even at 60hz Dolby Vision useless. I would also imagine due to Dolby Vision processing input lag would be even higher than if you weren't in Dolby vision. B

BerserkDoomguy

· Registered Joined Aug 5, 2016 · 469 Posts

Jeffery Sanders said: I speculate there could be a difference in thermal padding (that could justify cost possibly), but we need a FLIR to test that. Click to expand...

This is important. Without knowing what the inside of the G1 looks like, we shouldn’t just assume setting a C1 to be a G1 is without risk. I’m leaning towards it being completely safe but with a little patience we should be able to confirm it soon enough. I’m sure VE or D-Nice will have an opinion on the matter shortly.

Diego94

· Registered Joined Apr 29, 2021 · 153 Posts

CTM Audi said: Anyone in the Xbox preview program have access to any Dolby Vision games? When I had the C1 I didn't think to check this. Does LG have a game picture mode in Dolby Vision? On Sony it seems to only be vivid, Dolby Vision bright, and Dolby Vision dark. That would render gaming even at 60hz Dolby Vision useless. I would also imagine due to Dolby Vision processing input lag would be even higher than if you weren't in Dolby vision. Click to expand...

What point XY do you use for your calibration, because the default one is not recommended according to the discussion thread B

BerserkDoomguy

· Registered Joined Aug 5, 2016 · 469 Posts

Bill Broderick said: Serial Number should allow them to do it. Click to expand...

Sure but that assumes they have a way to check your serial and that they are willing to go through the hassle of doing such and push separate firmware to the specific model you might have. I’m guessing it’s not worth LG’s time to fork the firmware and add in the extra testing cycles for the minuscule portion of the market that would make this change in the first place.

The Salty One

· Banned Joined May 11, 2021 · 503 Posts

BerserkDoomguy said: This is important. Without knowing what the inside of the G1 looks like, we shouldn’t just assume setting a C1 to be a G1 is without risk. I’m leaning towards it being completely safe but with a little patience we should be able to confirm it soon enough. I’m sure VE or D-Nice will have an opinion on the matter shortly. Click to expand...

Man I kinda feel the same on this! I'm so tempted to check this out, but are we really gonna see a difference when we're taking sub 100 nits?

Classy Tech

· Registered Onkyo NR7100, 5.1.4 Infinity Primus + SVS PC-2000Pro Joined Jun 2, 2010 · 4,541 Posts

Diego94 said: What point XY do you use for your calibration, because the default one is not recommended according to the discussion thread Click to expand...

You can use any white point that you want to target. If you want the standard of d65 just use that. Out of the box if it's the 55 or 65 it should be close to modified judd offset. 8

8348594

· Guest Joined Jun 20, 2011 · 1,367 Posts

MisterXDTV said: Isn't D65 the reference white point standard? Why LG doesn't use it? Click to expand...

LG does use it. However, due to what is essentially a disagreement between how a meter reads certain display types, and the way our eyes perceive the light that display type produces (in this case, an LG OLED), you first have to perceptually match an LG OLED with a known reference display, and then measure the whitepoint. That's the whitepoint you treat as the D65 whitepoint.

Diego94

· Registered Joined Apr 29, 2021 · 153 Posts

CTM Audi said: You can use any white point that you want to target. If you want the standard of d65 just use that. Out of the box if it's the 55 or 65 it should be close to modified judd offset. Click to expand...

ok thank you very much to you CTM

Rainboom

· Registered Joined May 15, 2021 · 900 Posts what is this, lol should of removed the audio, oh well

ttnuagmada said: My guess is that the TV has to look a frame ahead to look for logos to dim, and that doesn't jive with low latency. Click to expand...

I guess... that's annoying, though.. if I want to game in 120hz then it won't dim static game UIs which I guess isn't that big of a deal but... P

pg22

· Registered Joined Sep 8, 2003 · 630 Posts

CTM Audi said: Anyone in the Xbox preview program have access to any Dolby Vision games? When I had the C1 I didn't think to check this. Does LG have a game picture mode in Dolby Vision? On Sony it seems to only be vivid, Dolby Vision bright, and Dolby Vision dark. That would render gaming even at 60hz Dolby Vision useless. I would also imagine due to Dolby Vision processing input lag would be even higher than if you weren't in Dolby vision. Click to expand...

With the caveat that I only have a 1X (but I am alpha insider), it appears the answer is maybe/yes? I can boot Netflix and Dolby Vision kicks in. I check on my picture settings and it's displaying "Dolby Vision Select Mode Game Optimizer." I'm not certain if this addresses your specific concern, sorry! B

BerserkDoomguy

· Registered Joined Aug 5, 2016 · 469 Posts

The Salty One said: Man I kinda feel the same on this! I'm so tempted to check this out, but are we really gonna see a difference when we're taking sub 100 nits? Click to expand...

You can take a look at HDTV’s G1 vs CX comparison to see if it’s worth it for you. No doubt everyone should do it if it’s deemed safe with no negative side effects. I do wonder if the G1 profile changes how the TV handles specular highlights or if all you really get is the nits. B

Bill Broderick

· Registered Joined Nov 15, 2000 · 3,649 Posts

BerserkDoomguy said: Sure but that assumes they have a way to check your serial and that they are willing to go through the hassle of doing such and push separate firmware to the specific model you might have. I’m guessing it’s not worth LG’s time to fork the firmware and add in the extra testing cycles for the minuscule portion of the market that would make this change in the first place. Click to expand...

It might not be as "difficult" as serial number. They have the model name in the InStart screen. I'd be willing to be that changing the Tool value in the ToolOPT1_Product Screen from C1 to G1 doesn't change the model name. I don't disagree with you that they probably don't care enough to do this. But, if they did, issuing model specific firmware versions shouldn't be difficult at all. 2,581 - 2,600 of 24,316 Posts 1 130 of 1216

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