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C180/c200/c250 cgi

By Guest Ct13, October 25, 2011 in General Mercedes-Benz Chat

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Posted October 25, 2011

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Dear all,

Have been browsing through various website for the above mentioned model,

and get the following:

C180, C200 & C250 are all 1.8L, all have the same bore x stroke. But they have different HP...

C180 compression ratio is 9.8 as for C200 & C250 is 9.3.

Let's compare C200 & C250 as they have the same setup, but why they have different power?

1. Is it the ECU? Cause the ECU is "Locked"?

2. So, C200 will not match the C250 if both are tune with piggyback?

3. Let's say one day the ECU can be "Unlock". And can be Custom ECU tune. Which means C200 has the same potential as C250?

Sorry for my bad english, and hope you guys understand what i and asking. :becky:

Was making the above comparison as 2nd hand C200 CGI & C250 CGI is around 5K different.

Regards,

Ct

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what ever mod u want to do, check with your car insurance whether they allow u to do so or not . because they will void your insurance if something happen after u purchase their policy

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Ct13 wrote:

Dear all,

Have been browsing through various website for the above mentioned model,

and get the following:

C180, C200 & C250 are all 1.8L, all have the same bore x stroke. But they have different HP...

C180 compression ratio is 9.8 as for C200 & C250 is 9.3.

Let's compare C200 & C250 as they have the same setup, but why they have different power?

1. Is it the ECU? Cause the ECU is "Locked"?

2. So, C200 will not match the C250 if both are tune with piggyback?

3. Let's say one day the ECU can be "Unlock". And can be Custom ECU tune. Which means C200 has the same potential as C250?

Sorry for my bad english, and hope you guys understand what i and asking. :becky:

Was making the above comparison as 2nd hand C200 CGI & C250 CGI is around 5K different.

Regards,

Ct

go for the C250 and call it a day........

cheers

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Welcome!! $5k diff only? Go for 250 CGI.

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Welcome!! $5k diff only? Go for 250 CGI.

Agreed! Just S$5k diff. :shocked:

Further C250 CGI has better potential fr extra engine enhancement! :whistle:

The End! :music:

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Agreed! Just S$5k diff. :shocked:

Further C250 CGI has better potential fr extra engine enhancement! :whistle:

The End! :music:

agree!! just pay 5k more rather than save 5k and buy c200 then mod mod mod till like c250 bhp which maybe cost even more and might void warrenty :whistle:

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Agreed! Just S$5k diff. :shocked:

Further C250 CGI has better potential fr extra engine enhancement! :whistle:

The End! :music:

remember to install Coilover.....

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agree!! just pay 5k more rather than save 5k and buy c200 then mod mod mod till like c250 bhp which maybe cost even more and might void warrenty :whistle:

worst is after mod still cant beat C250.......

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Ct13 wrote:

Dear all,

Have been browsing through various website for the above mentioned model,

and get the following:

C180, C200 & C250 are all 1.8L, all have the same bore x stroke. But they have different HP...

C180 compression ratio is 9.8 as for C200 & C250 is 9.3.

Let's compare C200 & C250 as they have the same setup, but why they have different power?

1. Is it the ECU? Cause the ECU is "Locked"?

2. So, C200 will not match the C250 if both are tune with piggyback?

3. Let's say one day the ECU can be "Unlock". And can be Custom ECU tune. Which means C200 has the same potential as C250?

Sorry for my bad english, and hope you guys understand what i and asking. :becky:

Was making the above comparison as 2nd hand C200 CGI & C250 CGI is around 5K different.

Regards,

Ct

welcome bro

Long time no see heheeh

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welcome bro

Long time no see heheeh

Thanks Doc!!!:bounce: Nice to see you here too!!!

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Hi all,

Seem like many are picking C250 as different is around 6K for Brand New & 5-10K for 2nd hand.

Why I don't see many C250 on the road??? They are more C200 than C250....:confused: Hence, not many 2nd hand C250 for sales........:Cry:

If the ECU can be "unlock", both will have the same power if both are tuned right? As all the hardware, setup, compression ratio, Bore x Stroke are exactly the same.

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Ct13 wrote:

Hi all,

Seem like many are picking C250 as different is around 6K for Brand New & 5-10K for 2nd hand.

Why I don't see many C250 on the road??? They are more C200 than C250....:confused: Hence, not many 2nd hand C250 for sales........:Cry:

If the ECU can be "unlock", both will have the same power if both are tuned right? As all the hardware, setup, compression ratio, Bore x Stroke are exactly the same.

Bro, 6k diff fr a better engine u'll nt regret! :whistle:

Cld b e diff time diff price apart, e demand n aso e stock availability at tat particular period! :hand:

So less on e market less sellg n aso they gotta no reasons to upgrade since no other maker can match or even on par w it. :bounce:

Thus far saw three C300 on e road only. :tsk:

So again, u ve quoted 'if' n C&C wldnt sell C200 if C180 can b unlock fully to b e same correct! Likewise they wldnt sell OEM ECU cars! Hence, piggyback is a must at this rate. :music:

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So again, u ve quoted 'if' n C&C wldnt sell C200 if C180 can b unlock fully to b e same correct! Likewise they wldnt sell OEM ECU cars! Hence, piggyback is a must at this rate. :music:

*nod*.. just unleashed a E200 via piggyback... grrrrrrr.......

remember.. the law of baselines still applies...

if you tune a C180.. you get better than C200 (performance wise)

if you tune a C200.. you get better than C250 (performnce wise)

if you tune a C250.. you get er.. better than than a tuned C200... (obvioulsy)

It's a never ending performance enhancing pleasure :preggers: (pause for effect)

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hannson wrote:

*nod*.. just unleashed a E200 via piggyback... grrrrrrr.......

remember.. the law of baselines still applies...

if you tune a C180.. you get better than C200 (performance wise)

if you tune a C200.. you get better than C250 (performnce wise)

if you tune a C250.. you get er.. better than than a tuned C200... (obvioulsy)

It's a never ending performance enhancing pleasure :preggers: (pause for effect)

Thanks Doc Hannson!

Understood....Cleared my doubt....

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