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Notices C6 Corvette General Discussion General C6 Corvette Discussion not covered in Tech Community Links Pictures & Albums Members List Search Forums Show Threads Show Posts Tag Search Click for Advanced Search Find All Liked Posts Go to Page... C5 Z06 or C6 Base 05-08 Reply Subscribe Thread Tools Search this Thread Jun 18, 2016 | 08:43 PM Share Share Options #1 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 C5 Z06 or C6 Base 05-08 My hopes and dreams of finding a pro touring style 68 camaro that's had an ls swap in price range is near impossible I can't afford to fly around the country looking for one. So I started looking at late model c5 Z06 and c6 05-08 vettes. I'm 33 so the modern consciences of the vette appeal to me anyways. This is a toy and not a daily driver. Something to mod and play with. It seems the c5 z06 amd c6 05-08 vettes are in price range. The c5 z06 has the cool factor but not sure how I feel about the solid roof. I really like the c6 with targa top. Which one would you consider. The ls2 seems to be a pretty short lived motor, what's the deal? Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 18, 2016 | 10:19 PM Share Share Options #2 RicK T Team Owner Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 20,352 Likes: 567 From: Ventura County, Calif That has been a much discussed question here for years. I don't know where you get the idea that the LS2 is short lived but, you will get plenty of owners here who will disagree. The biggest comparison, broad paint brush statement, is the C5 Z06 is a more "rough around the edges" driver's car while the C6 is much more refined, nicer car to be in over time. Here's an old thread list you can look at for opinions and facts: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-or-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-or-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...r-base-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...r-c6-base.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...nvertible.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...07-ls2-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-vs-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-02-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-c6-coupe.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...my-08-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c6-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...de-please.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...w-c6-my08.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...07-c6-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...s2-vs-ls3.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-who-wins.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-or-later.html Last edited by RicK T; Jun 18, 2016 at 10:20 PM. Reply 1 1 am6174uh RicK T View Public Profile Send a private message to RicK T Find More Posts by RicK T Jun 18, 2016 | 10:31 PM Share Share Options #3 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Quote: Originally Posted by RicK T That has been a much discussed question here for years. I don't know where you get the idea that the LS2 is short lived but, you will get plenty of owners here who will disagree. The biggest comparison, broad paint brush statement, is the C5 Z06 is a more "rough around the edges" driver's car while the C6 is much more refined, nicer car to be in over time. Here's an old thread list you can look at for opinions and facts: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-or-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-or-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...r-base-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...r-c6-base.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...nvertible.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...07-ls2-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...z06-vs-c6.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-02-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-c6-coupe.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...my-08-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...vs-c6-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...de-please.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...w-c6-my08.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...or-c5-z06.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...07-c6-z51.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...s2-vs-ls3.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-t...-who-wins.html http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-c...-or-later.html Thanks for the reply. I did a Google search after I posted and this really is a common question. Only reason I say the ls2 was short lived as the vettes only had it for 2 years. If the z06 had a targa top it would be a no brainier. Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 18, 2016 | 11:22 PM Share Share Options #4 Dano523 Race Director Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,461 Likes: 3,595 2005 MZ-6 Z51 option car, will spank a C5 Z06 in every way! It has better handling, better braking, and more HP. Hence the ls-2 makes 411HP stock, and not the de-rated 400 that GM claimed so dealers would not have a hard time selling the C5 z06 stock on the lots when the the C6 was introduced. As for C6 base or Z51 option cars, you want the z51 option car on anything shorter than a Z06/ZR1 model. Hence the z51 option, later became the GS models instead (the GS models become wide body cars). As for auto or stick, not a Fan of the A4 on the 2005 model, but if you want an auto, your not giving up much with the later A6 trans (with a tune on the trans to wake it up). F55 suspension, it works OK for that is designed for (old guys that wanted a soft ride in cruse mode), but it not a z51 option package suspension instead. So if money is tight (read you buy a vet, you better have extra money for mods and repairs you did not budget to start with), then nothing wrong with a C5 Z06 to play with. But with any vet, the newer the gen, the better off you are (questionable on the C7's with the problems they are having, and may want to hold off until the C8 is released isntead). Bottom line, the C1, C2 and C3 big blocks up to about 1972 where good cars. The C3 from 1973 and C4 (short of the zr-1) was disastrous no way you look at it (way under powered), then the C5 z06 is where GM was starting to catch up with what the vet should have been since 72 with the big block vets. The C6 z51 option package is where GM started to get the vet very close to where it should have been since 72/catching up with the times (the Z06 and zr1 made it that much better instead). Where the c7 shines is it improved handling over the C6, but the new LT motors with direct inject still has most of us wondering it that was the smart move (the adjustable valve timing was a step in the right direction although). Last edited by Dano523; Jun 18, 2016 at 11:23 PM. Reply 0 0 Dano523 View Public Profile Send a private message to Dano523 Find More Posts by Dano523 Jun 18, 2016 | 11:43 PM Share Share Options #5 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 How do I know if the c6 has the z51 option? Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 19, 2016 | 12:17 AM Share Share Options #6 tmanker Cruising Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 10 Likes: 3 Glove box. See here for RPO codes http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=130699 Reply 0 0 tmanker View Public Profile Send a private message to tmanker Find More Posts by tmanker Jun 19, 2016 | 12:37 AM Share Share Options #7 Vette_DD Team Owner Joined: May 2004 Posts: 82,178 Likes: 1,317 From: McKinney TX St. Jude Donor '21-'22-'23-'24 Quote: Originally Posted by Rushca01 Thanks for the reply. I did a Google search after I posted and this really is a common question. Only reason I say the ls2 was short lived as the vettes only had it for 2 years. No, the C6 Vettes had the LS2 for 3 years and for a total of 97,523 Coupes and Verts (model years 2005, 2006, and 2007). Reply 0 0 Vette_DD View Public Profile Find More Posts by Vette_DD Jun 19, 2016 | 01:29 AM Share Share Options #8 jrose7004 Team Owner Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 58,424 Likes: 1,767 From: Oklahoma City OK C6 of Year Finalist (appearance mods) 2019 I would go for a C6 over about any C5 just based on the refinements in the C6. Reply 0 0 jrose7004 View Public Profile Send a private message to jrose7004 Find More Posts by jrose7004 Jun 19, 2016 | 04:39 PM Share Share Options #9 sfrank2886 Racer Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 498 Likes: 77 From: DFW Texas Quote: Originally Posted by jrose7004 I would go for a C6 over about any C5 just based on the refinements in the C6. Do what I just did, buy an 08 with Z51. You will not be disappointed. For me, I wanted more options on interior color as well. I got an 08 Victory red, z51 auto LT3 with 36,000 miles for 27K. Reply 1 1 dmoneychris sfrank2886 View Public Profile Send a private message to sfrank2886 Find More Posts by sfrank2886 Jun 19, 2016 | 04:53 PM Share Share Options #10 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 I think I have pretty much made up my mind on either an 08-09 6 speed with targa top. Z51 would be nice but can you do better in the aftermarket arena then the z51 package? If upgrading suspension are there any wierd sensors to deal with? Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 19, 2016 | 05:20 PM Share Share Options #11 extrapilot Melting Slicks Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 2,232 Likes: 315 From: Bridgewater New Jersey The Z51 has a advantage also in the 6 speed gearing, lower for stronger pulling power, IMO Read up on the full package of the Z51.. Reply 0 0 extrapilot View Public Profile Send a private message to extrapilot Find More Posts by extrapilot Jun 19, 2016 | 06:32 PM Share Share Options #12 --Z06-- Pro Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 702 Likes: 168 From: Central Va I own a 2012 grand sport and I miss my 2004 C5Z. Reply 1 1 h8snow --Z06-- View Public Profile Send a private message to --Z06-- Find More Posts by --Z06-- Jun 19, 2016 | 06:51 PM Share Share Options #13 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Quote: Originally Posted by --Z06-- I own a 2012 grand sport and I miss my 2004 C5Z. Why? Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 19, 2016 | 08:55 PM Share Share Options #14 Dano523 Race Director Joined: Dec 2013 Posts: 12,461 Likes: 3,595 Quote: Originally Posted by Rushca01 Why? Because you don't have to treat a C5 like a electric car, tethered to the battery tender if you don't plan on driving it for a few days or more. Reply 0 0 Dano523 View Public Profile Send a private message to Dano523 Find More Posts by Dano523 Jun 19, 2016 | 11:14 PM Share Share Options #15 dmk0210 Burning Brakes Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,061 Likes: 130 I was just asking the same question about a month ago. The advice I got was C6 Z51 over any C5. It was also pointed out to me that the 2010 and up Grand Sport (Z16) has the Z51 package plus Z06 brakes and the larger wheel/tire size. If you get a manual trans coupe, it also has a dry sump oil system and the battery relocated in the trunk. The Z51 and GS are also available with a removable top coupe or convertible. Z06 is fixed roof only. Whatever you choose, look into getting a car with the HUD. It's a very cool feature. . Last edited by dmk0210; Jun 19, 2016 at 11:16 PM. Reply 0 0 dmk0210 View Public Profile Send a private message to dmk0210 Find More Posts by dmk0210 Jun 19, 2016 | 11:21 PM Share Share Options #16 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 The z16 sounds like a sweet car but I'm sure it's out of my mid 20s budget. Reply 0 0 Rushca01 View Public Profile Send a private message to Rushca01 Find More Posts by Rushca01 Jun 20, 2016 | 12:14 AM Share Share Options #17 JerriVette Race Director Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 16,022 Likes: 4,104 From: Bergen county NJ Owned both a c5 z06 and now a c6 z51 with npp and a six speed. Both winners... 65k on z06 and now 99k on c6. Want roof off capability buy c6... Want a slightly more raw race car like experience get the z06. Both bought brand new. Both favorite sports cars. I think I loved the z06 and really like the c6 z51. I really dig roof off driving all summer. Life is good. Hope this helps... Last edited by JerriVette; Jun 20, 2016 at 12:15 AM. Reply 0 0

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JerriVette View Public Profile Send a private message to JerriVette Find More Posts by JerriVette Jun 20, 2016 | 12:23 AM Share Share Options #18 rickyb Racer Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 422 Likes: 31 From: St. Louis MO I've had 3 corvettes. I rank them: 1. 2006 Z06 2. 2000 Convertible 3. 2005 Coupe The 2005 was fast, but didn't feel fast. Just wasn't "raw" feeling. It's a sports car, not an accord. I love the c5z06 but never got to own one Reply 0 0 rickyb View Public Profile Send a private message to rickyb Find More Posts by rickyb Jun 20, 2016 | 12:32 AM Share Share Options #19 dmoneychris Burning Brakes Joined: Mar 2012 Posts: 836 Likes: 43 From: Killeen Texas Quote: Originally Posted by Rushca01 I think I have pretty much made up my mind on either an 08-09 6 speed with targa top. Z51 would be nice but can you do better in the aftermarket arena then the z51 package? If upgrading suspension are there any wierd sensors to deal with? valid questions to ask. You can do better in the aftermarket. I had an 08 base Coupe before. I don't know of any sensors in the Suspension. The Johnny O'Connell stage 1 kit is 4 shocks & 2 sway bars & all the parts to install it. I was very impressed w/how it drove on the street & the twisty turns after those upgrades. There were lots of upgrades in 2008. (http://www.corvettemuseum.org/learn/...orvette-specs/). So, I ended up getting Drilled & Slotted rotors w/Premium Semi-Metallic pads from 'Brake Performance' & the Johnny O'Connell Stage 1 suspension kit...Among other some other mods... (Those first two mods, equal or go above factory Z51 parts in those categories) I had some money left for CAI, tune w/Headers & Exhaust upgrades. Last edited by dmoneychris; Jun 20, 2016 at 12:37 AM. Reply 0 0 dmoneychris View Public Profile Send a private message to dmoneychris Visit dmoneychris's homepage! Find More Posts by dmoneychris Jun 20, 2016 | 08:26 AM Share Share Options #20 Rushca01 Thread Starter Heel & Toe Joined: Jun 2016 Posts: 18 Likes: 0 Quote: Originally Posted by dmoneychris valid questions to ask. You can do better in the aftermarket. I had an 08 base Coupe before. I don't know of any sensors in the Suspension. The Johnny O'Connell stage 1 kit is 4 shocks & 2 sway bars & all the parts to install it. I was very impressed w/how it drove on the street & the twisty turns after those upgrades. There were lots of upgrades in 2008. (http://www.corvettemuseum.org/learn/...orvette-specs/). So, I ended up getting Drilled & Slotted rotors w/Premium Semi-Metallic pads from 'Brake Performance' & the Johnny O'Connell Stage 1 suspension kit...Among other some other mods... (Those first two mods, equal or go above factory Z51 parts in those categories) I had some money left for CAI, tune w/Headers & Exhaust upgrades. Thanks and that's exactly what I was assuming you could. I get the gearing is different on the z51 as well. I guess the only sensors one wild deal with is if you had the magnetic ride control and switched those shocks out for aftermarket or at the very minimum you would have a button that does nothing. 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