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Start date Jun 21, 2021

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Silver Supporting Member Joined Apr 1, 2019 Messages 191 Reaction score 99 How is the clarity of the dc-2w vs the ce-2w? Don’t get me wrong the ce-2w is great but I find it kills a lot of the sparkle/jangle in my sound and kind of muddies up the mid range. From what I’ve been reading it seems like the dc-2w will be a lot better on those fronts? Or is there a different pedal I should be looking at?

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Joined Aug 15, 2006 Messages 6,949 Reaction score 8,673 it will add some sparkle, it depends on how much more sparkle you need: a bit more dc2, another tiny bit more ch1

On_the_Edge_of_Time

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Dirty Tony said: it will add some sparkle, it depends on how much more sparkle you need: a bit more dc2, another tiny bit more ch1 Click to expand...

I mainly want it to just be able to add some chorus with out killing the sparkle like both the ce-1 and 2 settings do on the ce-2w Radar

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Joined Jun 14, 2017 Messages 2,935 Reaction score 5,722 Owner of both here. The ce2w boosts mids. The dc2w stays flat in comparison. Also as a side note, the dimension effect is made for stereo. If you're going to run the dc2w in mono and eq concerns you then consider buying any other chorus with much more control. R

Ry@n

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Joined May 16, 2020 Messages 7,796 Reaction score 14,173 I own both a DC-2w and a CE-2w. I would call the DC-2w the more clear-sounding of the two pedals, in terms of what I think you are describing. Edit to say, yes, DC-2w really is best in a stereo setup. I’m not sure you get as much of your money’s worth if you are not running it in stereo, though it does still sound good in mono.

On_the_Edge_of_Time

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Radar said: Owner of both here. The ce2w boosts mids. The dc2w stays flat in comparison. Also as a side note, the dimension effect is made for stereo. If you're going to run the dc2w in mono and eq concerns you then consider buying any other chorus with much more control. Click to expand...

Will be running mono. Any suggestions for a different chorus pedal then for that I’m after? Radar

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On_the_Edge_of_Time said: Will be running mono. Any suggestions for a different chorus pedal then for that I’m after? Click to expand...

Anything that solves the particular problem you're having. If the ce2w doesn't have enough sparkle, consider a chorus with a high eq control. The CE-5 has this feature.

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Joined Oct 30, 2009 Messages 4,093 Reaction score 2,355 Location St. Louis, MO Even mono the DC2 has a unique sound, I wouldnt count it out of the running just yet. Yes, in stereo, its pretty awesome, but the subtlety of the pedal still comes across in mono* *Own the original and MD500

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Gold Supporting Member Joined Feb 20, 2007 Messages 12,545 Reaction score 18,585 Location Eastern NC Hate to go a different route, but I can't help but suggest the Maxon PAC-9 Pure Analog Chorus. Basically an improved version of the classic Ibanez CS-505 (my favorite chorus), the PAC-9 has no mid-bump and no volume boost (thanks to the 'pure' switch) and includes a bright switch. FWIW, I have a DC-2W and think the PAC-9 can live on the same board with no overlap. R

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Endr_rpm said: Even mono the DC2 has a unique sound, I wouldnt count it out of the running just yet. Yes, in stereo, its pretty awesome, but the subtlety of the pedal still comes across in mono* *Own the original and MD500 Click to expand...

I do agree. It’s just not a particularly inexpensive pedal, so I’d be seeking to try it in stereo if I was to lay out the cash for one (which I did, and stereo is, indeed, how I have chosen to use it…worth every penny!). It’s really a different sound than the other common chorus sounds, either way.

OotMagroot

Silver Supporting Member Joined Mar 23, 2008 Messages 15,443 Reaction score 14,435 I only use the DC-2W in mono. I think it sounds lovely in mono. Also had the CE-2W and I think the DC-2W has more shimmer, but I wouldn't say it's jangly or more sparkly. These descriptive terms always make me LOL R

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OotMagroot said: I only use the DC-2W in mono. I think it sounds lovely in mono. Also had the CE-2W and I think the DC-2W has more shimmer, but I wouldn't say it's jangly or more sparkly. These descriptive terms always make me LOL Click to expand...

Shimmer is a good word. I think if the guitar sounds jangly and/or sparkly before kicking the DC-2w on, though, that doesn’t seem to get lost with the effect on.

On_the_Edge_of_Time

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Ry@n said: Shimmer is a good word. I think if the guitar sounds jangly and/or sparkly before kicking the DC-2w on, though, that doesn’t seem to get lost with the effect on. Click to expand...

cool yeah that’s what I getting at. Not looking for the chorus to add the shimmer/jangle , just looking for it to not kill that aspect that I already have going on. The ce-2w definitely kills the jangle, at least for me Cream

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Silver Supporting Member Joined Nov 27, 2010 Messages 3,395 Reaction score 1,494 I only have an '80s CE-2 and DC-2W but I will say based on your description, the Dimension style chorus is much more what you're after. The DC series adds a lot more top end shimmer without affecting mids. The CE series is all about moving the mids. Two different styles. Neither is better but I think the DC series sounds much more like what you're after. npappas

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Radar said: Also as a side note, the dimension effect is made for stereo. If you're going to run the dc2w in mono and eq concerns you then consider buying any other chorus with much more control. Click to expand...

No, the DC-2 works for mono as well, and plenty of people use it mono in their rigs.

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Ry@n said: Shimmer is a good word. I think if the guitar sounds jangly and/or sparkly before kicking the DC-2w on, though, that doesn’t seem to get lost with the effect on. Click to expand...

Yep, agreed. Keeps the base tone intact...it more or less widens the signal and adds the before mentioned shimmer. Radar

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npappas said: No, the DC-2 works for mono as well, and plenty of people use it mono in their rigs. Click to expand...

That would make it a very expensive mono chorus for having no adjustable parameters. I wouldn't recommend it. npappas

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Radar said: That would make it a very expensive mono chorus for having no adjustable parameters. I wouldn't recommend it. Click to expand...

It's not just a mono chorus even in mono. It's as different from a chorus as flange or vibrato, perhaps even moreso, because both of those use an LFO to pitch modulate one wet signal. With that in mind, even the mode selection is all you need for control. It's as if Boss hand-selected the 4 best sounds for you so all the hard work is done. Who needs knobs? Most people use digital pedals to call up one pre-programmed preset anyway, what's the difference?

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Joined Dec 10, 2009 Messages 790 Reaction score 1,365 The DC-2w isn't really the same as a typical chorus pedal. I own an original SDD-320 Dimension D, and that type of chorus effect is far more subliminal than chorus pedal like a CE-2w will ever produce. I also have a DC-2w, and it isn't in the same ballpark as my CE-2w. I like both pedals, but they don't really substitute for one another(it should be noted I prefer the DC-2w). The DC-2w is more of an ambience effect rather than a pure modulation effect. Part of its beauty is the sound randomly bounces across a stereo field. For sure what the Boss CE-1/CE-2 type of chorus effect isn't the same as the Dimension D/DC-2 type chorus effect. Though I am not fan of the TC pedal, their Chorus pedal has plenty of shimmer and clarity if you want a more typical chorus pedal like a CE-2w. I have always found the Ibanez/Maxon CS-9 type chorus to have more shimmer & clarity. Maxon made a few variations of the circuit over the years. It's basically a Boss CE-2 with more depth and clarity. Those can be found cheaply.

Radar said: That would make it a very expensive mono chorus for having no adjustable parameters. I wouldn't recommend it. Click to expand...

I concur. While the DC-2w can be used as a mono pedal, one really misses what the Dimension type effect excels at. It's meant to widen the stereo field. Sometimes you don't even notice it's even on until it's off. If you like to be able to speed up the waveform of the chorus, the DC-2w just won't do that type of stuff very well at all.

npappas said: It's not just a mono chorus even in mono. It's as different from a chorus as flange or vibrato, perhaps even moreso, because both of those use an LFO to pitch modulate one wet signal. With that in mind, even the mode selection is all you need for control. It's as if Boss hand-selected the 4 best sounds for you so all the hard work is done. Who needs knobs? Most people use digital pedals to call up one pre-programmed preset anyway, what's the difference? Click to expand...

Have you ever spent a few hours using a DC-2w in stereo? As someone who started out with the SDD-320 Dimension D, I don't see the point of using it in mono. It's not that a DC-2w is awful in mono(far from it), however, you are missing what the Dimension D/DC-2 type ambiance is all about. The Boss designers did a great job at making the original SDD-320 effect into a guitar pedal. The O/P should check a DC-2w out to see if it works better. It certainly has more clarity & shimmer than a CE-2w. npappas

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Amp_Addicted said: Have you ever spent a few hours using a DC-2w in stereo? As someone who started out with the SDD-320 Dimension D, I don't see the point of using it in mono. It's not that a DC-2w is awful in mono(far from it), however, you are missing what the Dimension D/DC-2 type ambiance is all about. The Boss designers did a great job at making the original SDD-320 effect into a guitar pedal. Click to expand...

Yes, had a stereo setup for a while, and have been entrenched in the DC-2, 3, Waza, and Fromel Seraph pedals for quite some time now. After a while I decided a stereo setup was not worth the hassle, and now that I'm in a tiny apartment there isn't much room for 2 amps anyway. But I kept most of my dimension style pedals, and I'd still say they sound about 80-85% as good in mono.

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