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GTX 780 vs GTX 970?? (on several points)

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GreyPhantom

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Sep 2, 2014 60 0 4,640 1. future proofing 2. Power 3. Speed (supposed gaming at 1080p) Solution Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster

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VincentP

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Oct 18, 2013 4,105 1 26,965 The GTX 970 is better value and more than fast enough for 1080p. The GTX 980 is about 20% faster and has the same amount of VRAM, not really any more future proof. Power usage isn't much different between the two, much better than GTX 700 series (except GTX 750 and 750 Ti) and much better than Radeon R7/R9 200 series. Upvote 0 Downvote

guanyu210379

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Mar 30, 2007 7,681 25 38,115 For future proofing and speed, With any GTX780 and GTX970 will you do no wrong. Power? GTX970 is better. Upvote 0 Downvote

RobCrezz

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Mar 14, 2013 19,077 99 75,190 1) probably the 970 due to more vram 2) 970 consumes less power, with similar performance (probably higher with overclocking) 3) 970 better with overclocking. Upvote 0 Downvote V

VincentP

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Oct 18, 2013 4,105 1 26,965 Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster Upvote 1 Downvote Solution G

GreyPhantom

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Sep 2, 2014 60 0 4,640 VincentP : Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster haha thank you for coming back! and no worries I wonder if 780 will drop in price (below 970)... Upvote 0 Downvote V

VincentP

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Oct 18, 2013 4,105 1 26,965 GreyPhantom : VincentP : Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster haha thank you for coming back! and no worries I wonder if 780 will drop in price (below 970)... It will have to as retailers try to get rid of what stock they have left. Only the 6GB models will hold their value. Upvote 0 Downvote

RobCrezz

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Mar 14, 2013 19,077 99 75,190 GreyPhantom : VincentP : Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster haha thank you for coming back! and no worries I wonder if 780 will drop in price (below 970)... Unlikely, the usually just discontinue them. Nvidia never want the market flooded with discounted last gen models. Upvote 0 Downvote G

getpatriotized

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Feb 11, 2014 8 0 10,510 I'm in the exact situation. Bought an Asus 780 a couple of weeks ago. Issued an RMA so I'm good with getting my money back. Currently looking at the G1 Gaming 970 by Gigabyte. Upvote 0 Downvote R

rustyfork123

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Sep 23, 2014 2 0 4,510 Can I ask where you got the figures for those benchmarks? GPU Boss tells a different tale: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970-vs-GeForce-GTX-780 Upvote 0 Downvote B

Baumy15

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May 12, 2014 1,008 0 5,660 RobCrezz : 1) probably the 970 due to more vram 2) 970 consumes less power, with similar performance (probably higher with overclocking) 3) 970 better with overclocking. What less power? They both consume ~350W when under load what's a lot of power already. And performance wise there is a massive difference 980 has everything unleashed and the gigabyte model has more efficient cooling that the 970 which uses a more tamed version of the 980s chip. And frame wise for 1080p around 10-15 frames faster and heaps faster for 4K. Upvote 0 Downvote B

Baumy15

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May 12, 2014 1,008 0 5,660 And I've just put this in the wrong post to. Upvote 0 Downvote V

VincentP

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Oct 18, 2013 4,105 1 26,965 rustyfork123 : Can I ask where you got the figures for those benchmarks? GPU Boss tells a different tale: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970-vs-GeForce-GTX-780 I'm not sure which post this is reply to. GPU Boss is rubbish. If you want benchmarks, look at the Tom's hardware review or Guru3D review. Upvote 0 Downvote B

Baumy15

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May 12, 2014 1,008 0 5,660 VincentP : rustyfork123 : Can I ask where you got the figures for those benchmarks? GPU Boss tells a different tale: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-970-vs-GeForce-GTX-780 I'm not sure which post this is reply to. GPU Boss is rubbish. If you want benchmarks, look at the Tom's hardware review or Guru3D review. Gpu boss is not and good I never use it this is why http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-295X2-vs-GeForce-GTX-780-Ti backup for this http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-crossfire-performance,3808-4.html http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-r9-295x2-crossfire-performance,3808-2.html I get all my info from toms hardware guru3d extreme tech pcworld and other various reviews i went into the wrong tab and replied to what you had written. And the above thing about the 295x2 being better isn't a "fanboy" thing I have a GTX 660 getting a 980 later this year. And I couldn't be bothered hyper linking either Upvote 0 Downvote R

rbarnhart

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Jan 18, 2014 48 0 10,540 There truly is no doubt to the answer to your question. The 970 stands as a revolution in performance to price ratio. The 780 had already lost to the r9 290 and 290X cards. However, in my opinion, if you currently hold a 770 or better card, you are better served waiting another 6 months or more as the performance difference is tolerable unless you are at high res/high refresh/multi-monitor, where the new cards have effectively zero impact, then you should just consider multi-card configs instead. Most reviews, including Tom's, indicate that a 970 can trade punches and on average win against a 290x card. A 290x can thump a 780. The 980 is interesting, but the 970 is the real interesting product. More importantly, why did team price death release a product so capable at such a price point. This is not Nvidia's M-O. While they are a company of tremendous capacity, they price gouge a lot! While AMD may be bringing up the rear at the moment on single gpu performance again, they still hold overall single card performance, and their business model has forced competition. This is win-win. It is too bad there is not a third competitor, prices would get even better. So love what Nvidia has done here. They have literally made the best single card price to performance winner that may stand for a long time. The 980 stands as kinda silly at the moment given how great the 970 is. You can most likely sli 2 970s for less than any upcoming 980Ti cards if they will exist. This parallels AMD's 290, 290x release. The less costly card can trade punches with the older brother card with a significant price drop. The future of gpu development is really exciting right now and we have not even begun to cross the next smaller processing node. Hee hee hee.... I am giddy as a little school girl! Fight it out Nvidia and AMD...fight it out! Upvote 1 Downvote T

Typical

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Oct 22, 2014 1 0 4,510 getpatriotized : I'm in the exact situation. Bought an Asus 780 a couple of weeks ago. Issued an RMA so I'm good with getting my money back. Currently looking at the G1 Gaming 970 by Gigabyte. Same. I am not sure if it's worth it to Rma my gtx 780 for a 970 because there is a $50 restocking fee, and performance wise there is not a huge difference in 1080p with the 970. Could someone help me? I don't know what to do. Upvote 0 Downvote J

jrod716

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Sep 25, 2014 4 0 4,510 Typical : getpatriotized : I'm in the exact situation. Bought an Asus 780 a couple of weeks ago. Issued an RMA so I'm good with getting my money back. Currently looking at the G1 Gaming 970 by Gigabyte. Same. I am not sure if it's worth it to Rma my gtx 780 for a 970 because there is a $50 restocking fee, and performance wise there is not a huge difference in 1080p with the 970. Could someone help me? I don't know what to do. Hey, I am currently arguing with customer service at a couple of places about RMA details, so without knowing where you bought your card from, I can say if you talk to enough reps and be stern, but not emotional, the restocking fee and shipping, etc. fees will be waived. I have a friend who used to work for customer service and he told me there are departments reserved for "elevated" or "aggravated" customers. They can break rules to make customers happy. In a world so connected to social media, bad press can be detrimental to a company. Hours later... got my refund approved on my Replacement Only RMA, Go Newegg! Upvote 0 Downvote N

Novice88

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Dec 6, 2014 1 0 4,510 RobCrezz : 1) probably the 970 due to more vram 2) 970 consumes less power, with similar performance (probably higher with overclocking) 3) 970 better with overclocking. About the last one I've been wondering. Limitations due to heat production could theoretically be eliminated with exotic stuff like liquid nitrogen cooling. Would 780 not come out on top since it has over 1000 cuda cores more? Upvote 0 Downvote

renz496

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Jun 16, 2009 14,341 239 53,090 RobCrezz : GreyPhantom : VincentP : Sorry, I misread your post. Definitely the GTX 970. 1. More future proof with more VRAM 2. Less power, 145W compared to 250W 3. Faster haha thank you for coming back! and no worries I wonder if 780 will drop in price (below 970)... Unlikely, the usually just discontinue them. Nvidia never want the market flooded with discounted last gen models. exactly. nvidia usually EOL their high end card much earlier before coming up with new series. so when they launch their new series they don't have to lower their price much to clear existing stock. you can even say nvidia was quite good at this practice. Upvote 0 Downvote

renz496

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Jun 16, 2009 14,341 239 53,090 Novice88 : RobCrezz : 1) probably the 970 due to more vram 2) 970 consumes less power, with similar performance (probably higher with overclocking) 3) 970 better with overclocking. About the last one I've been wondering. Limitations due to heat production could theoretically be eliminated with exotic stuff like liquid nitrogen cooling. Would 780 not come out on top since it has over 1000 cuda cores more? 780 have more CUDA cores but nvidia have improve their core efficiency with maxwell. take GTX750Ti for example. the card only have 640 CUDA cores but in real world it was about 18%-20% faster than GTX650 Ti which have 768 CUDA cores. Upvote 0 Downvote

renz496

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Jun 16, 2009 14,341 239 53,090 GreyPhantom : 1. future proofing 2. Power 3. Speed (supposed gaming at 1080p) regardless future proof or not (there is no such thing actually when we talk about PC gaming) 970 will come with full support for DX12 while 780 will only support DX12 on the software side. power? there is no contest between the two. speed? in what manner? Upvote 0 Downvote

RobCrezz

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Mar 14, 2013 19,077 99 75,190 Baumy15 : RobCrezz : 1) probably the 970 due to more vram 2) 970 consumes less power, with similar performance (probably higher with overclocking) 3) 970 better with overclocking. What less power? They both consume ~350W when under load what's a lot of power already. And performance wise there is a massive difference 980 has everything unleashed and the gigabyte model has more efficient cooling that the 970 which uses a more tamed version of the 980s chip. And frame wise for 1080p around 10-15 frames faster and heaps faster for 4K. :lol: show me a 970 using 350w Upvote 0 Downvote Z

Zgros

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Dec 29, 2013 15 0 10,510 I bought my Asus oc2 gtx780 3gb 14 months ago and the price to buy it now is exactly the same if not more expensive. No idea why but I wouldn't hold my breath. 970s appeal is in its lower power consumption which means less heat which is good! Oh, and obviously the price. Upvote 0 Downvote

renz496

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Jun 16, 2009 14,341 239 53,090 Zgros : I bought my Asus oc2 gtx780 3gb 14 months ago and the price to buy it now is exactly the same if not more expensive. No idea why but I wouldn't hold my breath. 970s appeal is in its lower power consumption which means less heat which is good! Oh, and obviously the price. nvidia already EOL 780Ti, 780 and 770 when nvidia launch 900 series. the lack of stock might what holding the price from dropping too much. if anything this is what nvidia good at. Upvote 0 Downvote G

GObonzo

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Apr 5, 2011 972 0 19,160 my 4GB 770 with a slight oc is still holding up keeping all the new games; Unity, Far Cry 4, Inquisition, Shadow of Mordor, Advanced Warfare, Metro Redux(es), Alien: Isolation all running Ultra @ 1080p. am dying to get one of the new 970s but can't find a good enough reason to go for it now when prices may start dropping and current is still kicking ass. may just start saving for a 120+hz 1440p and a 970 all in one go. Upvote 0 Downvote

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