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Less is sometimes more 730d vs 740d xdrive 
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| 05-17-2019, 02:00 PM | #1 |
Wills2 Barge driver   8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Less is sometimes more 730d vs 740d xdrive I had an accident this week whereby someone went into the back of my 740d xdrive, today I was given a 730d sdrive loaner whilst mine gets repaired. Immediately the 730d on 19 wheels rather than the 20" of the 740d felt lighter nimbler and rode better, the car has less spec quite a bit less but of course that just adds to the lighter kerb weight. Without the xdrive it feels more neutral and sharper to drive, the 40/45 profile tyres are more forgiving and you can just roll over road imperfections, it's lower as well and generally a better car to drive and I really didn't think that the additional HP/torque of the 740d makes itself known in a way that you feel short changed with the 30d. I had the same feelings when I had a 330d sdrive loaner vs my 335d xdrive I think that the 30d sdrives are the sweet spot for the 3/4/5 and 7. __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-17-2019, 02:04 PM | #2 |
Watsey Major General   6596Rep 8,714Posts Drives: F31 330D sDrive M Sport Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: On sabbatical. iTrader: (1) | I couldn't agree more, but I am slightly biased. Hope your 740 gets fixed quickly. __________________ Current : F31 330sD, remapped, Ohlins Road & Track, Millway camber plates, Quaife LSD, Stoptech brakes + Pagid RSL1 pads all round, Weichers front strut brace, Eibach front & rear anti-roll bars, Michelin MP4S. |
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| 05-17-2019, 02:52 PM | #3 |
JustChris General   17683Rep 25,240Posts Drives: Tesla MYRWD Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Best riding BMW I had was a 520d F10 on Stock 18s soooo smooth compared to all my large rimmed cars. Sorry to hear about the accident, how's the whiplash coming along? Bad enough to find a change to a 30d ? __________________ My car made front page of Bimmerpost  |
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| 05-17-2019, 03:04 PM | #4 |
| Wills2 Barge driver 8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: Originally Posted by JustChris  Sorry to hear about the accident, how's the whiplash coming along? Bad enough to find a change to a 30d ? | LOL! I was on my way to a meeting at the Gore Hotel in London when it happened and everyone came out with that line, "where there is blame there's a claim." My neck is fine I've never claimed even when I was hit at 50mph in an F10 5 series back in 2012 and yes that did hurt. (weirdly only a mile away from where the recent accident happened) __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-17-2019, 03:06 PM | #5 |
| Wills2 Barge driver 8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Watsey I couldn't agree more, but I am slightly biased. | I think it's true though I really do even though I always go for the big gun so it's not like I'm biased, next time though.... __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-17-2019, 03:21 PM | #6 |
Lincoln61 Captain   732Rep 620Posts Drives: 2018 430d Msport+ Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Personally I think an S drive is much better that X drive __________________ Current - 2018 F32 430d M Sport+ Previous - 2013 F30 320d M Sport Previous - 2008 E92 320d SE |
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| 05-17-2019, 03:45 PM | #7 |
| teaston Banned 10839Rep 32,881Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1) | Great this time of year when it’s warm and dry, shite in winter when it’s cold and wet and you want to pull out of a junction quickly! |
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| 05-17-2019, 04:13 PM | #8 |
| Lincoln61 Captain 732Rep 620Posts Drives: 2018 430d Msport+ Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by teaston Great this time of year when it’s warm and dry, shite in winter when it’s cold and wet and you want to pull out of a junction quickly! | On the two days of the year it snows...or you dont know how to regulate your foot to the conditions. __________________ Current - 2018 F32 430d M Sport+ Previous - 2013 F30 320d M Sport Previous - 2008 E92 320d SE |
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| 05-17-2019, 04:16 PM | #9 |
| teaston Banned 10839Rep 32,881Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Lincoln61 On the two days of the year it snows...or you dont know how to regulate your foot to the conditions. | I didn’t say snow, I said winter, which is about 9 months of the year in this country! Yes you can regulate your foot, and pull away like a granny driving a toyota yaris!  |
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| 05-17-2019, 04:44 PM | #10 |
Hooded Banned  1546Rep 3,967Posts Drives: F30 330d M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: England iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Watsey I couldn't agree more, but I am slightly biased. . | I couldn't agree more either, ...again slightly biased though perhaps  |
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| 05-17-2019, 04:45 PM | #11 |
| Hooded Banned 1546Rep 3,967Posts Drives: F30 330d M-Sport Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: England iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Lincoln61 On the two days of the year it snows...or you dont know how to regulate your foot to the conditions. | This^ |
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| 05-17-2019, 04:57 PM | #12 |
| Wills2 Barge driver 8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | I just think after all my varied BMWs over the years that you don't drive statistics you drive the car and rwd BMWs are better to drive than xdrive versions. (SUV yes I get that they don't make sense as RWD so are excluded from that statement) I'm now trying to man math my way into a new 730d.... __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-17-2019, 05:07 PM | #13 |
| Goneinsixtyseconds Banned 4260Rep 7,703Posts Drives: Q7 & Clubman JCW on order Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chesterfield iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Wills2 I just think after all my varied BMWs over the years that you don't drive statistics you drive the car and rwd BMWs are better to drive than xdrive versions. (SUV yes I get that they don't make sense as RWD so are excluded from that statement) I'm now trying to man math my way into a new 730d.... | Jaguar F Pace comes in rwd and it's supposed to be pretty good. |
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| 05-17-2019, 06:33 PM | #14 |
Steven1077 Lieutenant Colonel  236Rep 1,756Posts Drives: M140i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: London England iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by teaston I didn’t say snow, I said winter, which is about 9 months of the year in this country! Yes you can regulate your foot, and pull away like a granny driving a toyota yaris! | You can say that again, I was going sideways pulling away from the lights the other day on half throttle, still faster than all the other cars though  |
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| 05-17-2019, 06:35 PM | #15 |
| teaston Banned 10839Rep 32,881Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Steven1077 You can say that again, I was going sideways pulling away from the lights the other day on half throttle, still faster than all the other cars though | I can well believe that you were going sideways faster than the other cars were going forward! |
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| 05-17-2019, 06:51 PM | #16 |
| Steven1077 Lieutenant Colonel 236Rep 1,756Posts Drives: M140i Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: London England iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by teaston I can well believe that you were going sideways faster than the other cars were going forward! | |
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| 05-18-2019, 04:37 PM | #17 |
| Wills2 Barge driver 8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Goneinsixtyseconds Jaguar F Pace comes in rwd and it's supposed to be pretty good. | Not sure I could buy an SUV that wasn't AWD, I'd rather have an estate if I needed the space in the boot but wanted rwd. __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-18-2019, 04:43 PM | #18 |
| Wills2 Barge driver 8832Rep 12,594Posts Drives: 730d Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | I spent some time in the Yorkshire dales today on the A59 and A65 so impressed with the car, I'm surprised more people don't have them (all though I do see quite a few these days now that I've got one) stunning cars. I discovered the 30d doesn't have the out right grunt of the 40d once out of town but it's still very impressive and you can really hustle it along I think I might get a set of 19" wheels on the 40d when I get it back as I think that might be the major difference. __________________ 730d/Z4C |
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| 05-18-2019, 05:34 PM | #19 |
| Lincoln61 Captain 732Rep 620Posts Drives: 2018 430d Msport+ Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: | Originally Posted by teaston I didn’t say snow, I said winter, which is about 9 months of the year in this country! Yes you can regulate your foot, and pull away like a granny driving a toyota yaris! | Regulating does not mean driving like a granny, It just means knowing how to drive properly. __________________ Current - 2018 F32 430d M Sport+ Previous - 2013 F30 320d M Sport Previous - 2008 E92 320d SE |
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| 05-18-2019, 05:36 PM | #20 |
| teaston Banned 10839Rep 32,881Posts Drives: X3 M40d Join Date: May 2012 Location: The High Seas iTrader: (1) | Quote: | Originally Posted by Lincoln61 Regulating does not mean driving like a granny, It just means knowing how to drive properly. | But if that is how much traction the car is capable of then you can’t pull away any faster than a granny! |
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| 05-18-2019, 05:40 PM | #21 |
| Broncho Banned 2266Rep 5,101Posts Drives: Chav white Mercedes Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Rainhill iTrader: (0) | Never found it hard to pull away quickly in poor conditions in any of my RWD BMWs, the Audi on the other hand will just spin the front wheels and literally go nowhere. |
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| 05-19-2019, 02:26 AM | #22 |
MashinBenzin Major General  8575Rep 8,909Posts Drives: Eiger D5 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: UK iTrader: (0) | Quote: Originally Posted by teaston Quote: | Originally Posted by Lincoln61 Regulating does not mean driving like a granny, It just means knowing how to drive properly. | But if that is how much traction the car is capable of then you can’t pull away any faster than a granny! | Never had traction problems like that in 3 winters with the RWD 440i. Even a cross country run across sub-zero and snowy wales was fine. __________________ Drives - 2020 LR Discovery HSE-L Previous - 2019 LR Discovery HSE-L // 2016 F36 440i // 2009 E90 320D SE |
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