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• Thread starter frater106
• Start date Sep 1, 2021
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frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326 Hey, guys! I just got in a couple of new Celestion speakers for my Ampeg Reverberocket R212-R. I had previously upgraded from the stock speakers to some American-made Eminence Wizard speakers. They have a great sound in this amp and I used them for both recording and gigging over several years, but at 103 dB, they’re very efficient and loud speakers. I’m switching to a pair of 100 dB speakers-Celestion’s Vintage 30 and G12H30 70th Anniversary in order to tame this 50 Watt bad boy a little bit. Have you got a favorite speaker or speaker combination you like to use or a speaker swap story you’d like to share?

Brek

Gold Supporting Member Joined May 15, 2020 Messages 5,203 Reaction score 8,045 I like what your selling tbh. Although i am trying to talk myself out of 2 g10 greenbacks for a little marshall stack I bought, already binned the stock mg15ii's that were in, presently rocking a creamback g10 and a vintage g10.

dmac in SC

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Joined Dec 5, 2018 Messages 330 Reaction score 768 It's hard find anything better than v30s. I am done looking, at least as far as my 'Blackface' rig is concerned. Great choice.

Central Scrutinizer

Silver Supporting Member Joined Aug 26, 2020 Messages 2,987 Reaction score 7,216 I am on the fence as to what to speakers to replace the Celestion G12T75 in a used Marshall 1936 Lead cabinet. The current setup is too harsh for me and my preferred style of music. I like Blues, 70s Rock, Allman Bros. , et al. Want to make an informed decision as to which speakers to buy. I have heard the Warehouse British Lead, Celestion Greenbacks, Creambacks, and Vintage 30s through sound bites online and recordings. Rely a lot on others reviews for purchases. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326

Central Scrutinizer said: I am on the fence as to what to speakers to replace the Celestion G12T75 in a used Marshall 1936 Lead cabinet. The current setup is too harsh for me and my preferred style of music. I like Blues, 70s Rock, Allman Bros. , et al. Want to make an informed decision as to which speakers to buy. I have heard the Warehouse British Lead, Celestion Greenbacks, Creambacks, and Vintage 30s through sound bites online and recordings. Rely a lot on others reviews for purchases. Click to expand...

Have you heard the G12H30? Might be good for that kind of stuff. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326

frater106 said: Have you heard the G12H30? Might be good for that kind of stuff. Click to expand...

It's like half-way between a Greenback and a Vintage 30. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326

frater106 said: It's like half-way between a Greenback and a Vintage 30. Click to expand...

More lows and highs than the Greenback.

Central Scrutinizer

Silver Supporting Member Joined Aug 26, 2020 Messages 2,987 Reaction score 7,216 Will see if I can get a good audio of this. Thanks.

JohnnyN

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Central Scrutinizer said: I am on the fence as to what to speakers to replace the Celestion G12T75 in a used Marshall 1936 Lead cabinet. The current setup is too harsh for me and my preferred style of music. I like Blues, 70s Rock, Allman Bros. , et al. Want to make an informed decision as to which speakers to buy. I have heard the Warehouse British Lead, Celestion Greenbacks, Creambacks, and Vintage 30s through sound bites online and recordings. Rely a lot on others reviews for purchases. Click to expand...

Greenbacks or Creambacks M12

drew365

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Joined Oct 23, 2011 Messages 1,556 Reaction score 1,361 I have a 2x12 with a set of Weber's that I like quite a bit. They are 12A150 and 12F150, which emulates a Jensen P12N, and a C12N. I wish I was willing to haul that cab around to gigs, but I'm not, even though the tone is great.

JohnnyN

Gold Supporting Member Joined May 15, 2010 Messages 5,957 Reaction score 16,147

drew365 said: I have a 2x12 with a set of Weber's that I like quite a bit. They are 12A150 and 12F150, which emulates a Jensen P12N, and a C12N. I wish I was willing to haul that cab around to gigs, but I'm not, even though the tone is great. Click to expand...

I had an old Blues Deluxe with a Weber 12A150-T speaker. Fantastic speaker for that amp!

jbash

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Joined Jan 20, 2014 Messages 2,564 Reaction score 4,243 H30s have alot of variation as well (owned all the new stuff and some old stuff) The 70th Anni is VERY bright compared to any actual old 75Hz I've played. I would say they are closest to Blackbacks just like the G12M25 Reissue greenback actually sounds way closer to Blackbacks, than the pulsonic greenbacks. Even after lots of break in, they can be really piercing in the mids/highs (I actually damaged my hearing in one ear playing a pair of 70th at high volumes for extended time periods- be careful). I prefer the 70th annis paired with a G12M to lose the harsh edge. 70th/V30 is a nice combo too with some amps (Rivera, Orange, Mesa) The Heritage H mag series (g12H30 75hz/G12H30 55hz) are better* at copping the old 70s Orange (75hz) or Marshall (55Hz) tones and are much less harsh than the 70th anniversary series. I've settled on the 55Hz as my fave H mag speaker (see the avatar over there <<<<<-------------) It's got better clarity and some sizzle at the very top, extended lows, and plenty of of thick mids without getting overbearing like the 75HZ do. Keep in mind, I'm running Marshalls, loud when I use/d them ,and this is all IMHO< yadda yadda yadda. * better, not exact.

JPP

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jbash said: H30s have alot of variation as well (owned all the new stuff and some old stuff) The 70th Anni is VERY bright compared to any actual old 75Hz I've played. I would say they are closest to Blackbacks just like the G12M25 Reissue greenback actually sounds way closer to Blackbacks, than the pulsonic greenbacks. Even after lots of break in, they can be really piercing in the mids/highs (I actually damaged my hearing in one ear playing a pair of 70th at high volumes for extended time periods- be careful). I prefer the 70th annis paired with a G12M to lose the harsh edge. 70th/V30 is a nice combo too with some amps (Rivera, Orange, Mesa) The Heritage H mag series (g12H30 75hz/G12H30 55hz) are better* at copping the old 70s Orange (75hz) or Marshall (55Hz) tones and are much less harsh than the 70th anniversary series. I've settled on the 55Hz as my fave H mag speaker (see the avatar over there <<<<<-------------) It's got better clarity and some sizzle at the very top, extended lows, and plenty of of thick mids without getting overbearing like the 75HZ do. Keep in mind, I'm running Marshalls, loud when I use/d them ,and this is all IMHO< yadda yadda yadda. * better, not exact. Click to expand...

I agree and confirm your statement. I am using two 2 x 12 cabinets. Cabinet 1. equipped with 2 Celestions Heritage G12H, 55Hz, 30 Watts. I bought them when they were released. Cabinet 2. equipped with 2 Celestions Vintage 30th originally made in England. I can´t remember exactly but they must be over 20 years old. It can be used as closed or open back. I am using a modified Mesa Boogie Lonestar (10/50/100 W selectable) optimized for EL34th. This combination gives me all the versatility I need depending on venue and sound requirement. I prefer to use both cabinets in combination. Cabinet 2. in open back configuration. I am mainly a Les Paul player. 1968 LP Custom on my avatar. For me this is the best sounding combination compared to my HIWATT 100Watt amplifier and two Orange 4 x 12 cabinets I was using from 1968 to 1973. I still regret to have sold this combination to replace it for something more modern . Z

zdoggie

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Joined Aug 6, 2015 Messages 581 Reaction score 215 I like celestion 1265, I have a 4x12 cab and a2x12 cab no complaints

Deftone

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Joined Feb 21, 2008 Messages 21,038 Reaction score 37,214 *WARNING* METALHEAD PERSPECTIVE..... YMMV The oversize 2x12 on the left has the Celestion Vintage 30 & G12H30 70th Anniversary combo, same as the OP. I like it a lot. Both Marshall 1960 Vintage 4x12's have Marshall branded V30's.....awesome as well. Maybe a tad muddy overall for my taste, but I still really like them. This 90's Avatar 2x12 has G12T-75's. I like them. They pair well with Marshall's for 80's & 90's Metal. I tried putting a V30 in with the G12T-75 and didn't like it as much as the pair of G12T-75's, but I only tried it with the little Joyo so.....?

Central Scrutinizer said: I am on the fence as to what to speakers to replace the Celestion G12T75 in a used Marshall 1936 Lead cabinet. The current setup is too harsh for me and my preferred style of music. I like Blues, 70s Rock, Allman Bros. , et al. Want to make an informed decision as to which speakers to buy. I have heard the Warehouse British Lead, Celestion Greenbacks, Creambacks, and Vintage 30s through sound bites online and recordings. Rely a lot on others reviews for purchases. Click to expand...

V30/G12H 30 combo or straight V30's would probably work great for you, IMHO. No experience with the other speakers mentioned. I might be interested in your G12T-75's if you decide to sell them.

Central Scrutinizer

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Deftone said: I might be interested in your G12T-75's if you decide to sell them. Click to expand...

Thanks, I will probably sell them. Don’t know how many hours are on ‘em. Thanks for your service! Military discount will apply.

mvenuti1980

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Joined May 19, 2021 Messages 541 Reaction score 1,025 My rig started life as just a Katana MkII head and 2x12 with Boss speakers in it. I eventually added a Marshall DSL 20, a Peavey 6505MH and a EVH LBX II. The speakers needed a change so just this week I swapped them to WGS Veteran 30s. Huge difference, much better. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326 Well, I ended up feeling like the G12H30 70th Anniversary and Vintage 30 combo. was a bit bright. I sold the Vintage 30 and will be replacing it with the 55 HZ Heritage G12H30, I think-only the 75 Hz one I found on sale for 75% the cost of a 55 Hz-so, I may cheap out. Lol. F

frater106

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Joined May 25, 2010 Messages 445 Reaction score 326

frater106 said: Well, I ended up feeling like the G12H30 70th Anniversary and Vintage 30 combo. was a bit bright. I sold the Vintage 30 and will be replacing it with the 55 HZ Heritage G12H30, I think-only the 75 Hz one I found on sale for 75% the cost of a 55 Hz-so, I may cheap out. Lol. Click to expand...

After further research, I’m thinking of going with either the Gold or Ruby Alnico instead. I think that’ll give me some much needed warmth. You must log in or register to reply here.

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