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• Thread starter Dannyz
• Start date Nov 6, 2017
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Whats the final word on Celestion G12H30 70th Anniversary?

• They´re great speakers!

  Votes: 308 77.4%

• They suck!

  Votes: 33 8.3%

• They only sound good mixed with other speakers

  Votes: 57 14.3%

• Total voters 398

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Humble Texan Fan

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Joined Oct 20, 2015 Messages 10,811 Reaction score 7,713 Location Scandinavian as in 'dynamite' These are 85Hz (free-air) speakers and I never was much of a fan of them - heard plenty of them yet never played through one, though. They're like a G12H30 Greenback that wants to be a V30. The Heritage 75Hz one has a sweeter midrange with more vintage feel to it.

Humble Texan Fan

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Jr Deluxe said: They sound good in fenders if you want a more british sound . They sound good in lower watt marshall combos . Ive not had 4 in a x12 cab so i cant testify but i like chinese greenbacks in a 4x12 and i think its the same coil and cone. in fact i dont see how someone who likes current greenbacks think the 70th annivs are harsh. Except for the mag its the same speaker. Click to expand...

I'm sorry but they aren't. The G12H has a higher free-air resonant frequency for starters. What you say specs wise do hold true with the Heritage ones, though. Then the H magnet also imparts a different tonality with more lows and highs. So eventhough you may prefer the M magnet version of a speaker you may find the H magnet one quite different, all things equal. Some modes of breakup may still be there, but the feel and range are not.

Guinness Lad

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Joined Nov 11, 2004 Messages 15,842 Reaction score 4,430 Location On top a mountain of Chocolate Chips

Humble Texan Fan said: These are 85Hz (free-air) speakers and I never was much of a fan of them - heard plenty of them yet never played through one, though. They're like a G12H30 Greenback that wants to be a V30. The Heritage 75Hz one has a sweeter midrange with more vintage feel to it. Click to expand...

That could be true but the Anniversary has more low end than just about any Celestion I can think of. For me it has the worst combination of things guitar amps do not need and that is more treble and lows.

Humble Texan Fan

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Joined Oct 20, 2015 Messages 10,811 Reaction score 7,713 Location Scandinavian as in 'dynamite'

Guinness Lad said: That could be true but the Anniversary has more low end than just about any Celestion I can think of. For me it has the worst combination of things guitar amps do not need and that is more treble and lows. Click to expand...

Would this be the lead or bass cone version you speak of?

MissoulaGriz

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Joined Jan 16, 2012 Messages 1,696 Reaction score 2,433 Location Missoula, Montana I had a G12H30 Anniversary in an Avatar 1X12 and I really wanted it to work out but no matter what I did, I just couldn't dial out the bass or get the treble to where I like it with my 18watt Plexi. Recorded on it's own it's a very nice, crisp tone, but as an at home practice cab it was just too loud, boomy and piercing. I ended up dropping it into my Vox AC12C2, mixed with an Avatar A25 and it's perfect in that scenario. The two pair very well together and perhaps it's the Vox circuit that helps it out. Either way I really like it paired with something else more than when it's on it's own. For a 1X12 I'd probably go with the H75 Creamback over a G12H30 Anniversary. J

Jr Deluxe

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Joined Apr 27, 2017 Messages 5,174 Reaction score 5,934 Hmm. So much dislike. I use one sometimes on a 65 bf deluxe. Sounds pretty good in that amp and im picky. Same speaker as the hellatone 30. Ive never heard anyone hate those.

Guinness Lad

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Joined Nov 11, 2004 Messages 15,842 Reaction score 4,430 Location On top a mountain of Chocolate Chips

Humble Texan Fan said: Would this be the lead or bass cone version you speak of? Click to expand...

Not sure, never looked at the cones of these, only V30's.

Tag

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De Batz said: It's loud, big in the bass and has an extended treble response. It's less 'static' than a Vintage 30 and less kerrang-y in the midrange than Greenbacks. Monstrous sound from a set of four. If they're too biting or treble-y for you, that's what you'll notice, but for me, they're about right. Sounds great in a (BF) Deluxe. Suits both American and British type sounds for that big low end. Some people find them stiff (the H magnet is firmer in the lows than the M) and some people find them too revealing in the high end. It's a great speaker for lots of different applications, but as you say, some folk don't like them. Last word: great. Click to expand...

Agree. My favorite speaker. Sounded amazing with my Dumble, with my Fenders, my Cowtippers, and even UG30 with EL 34 chime. Killer.

sonicmessiah

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Joined Jul 5, 2008 Messages 325 Reaction score 76 Location Seattle The newer Chinese-made ones are too bright for me & seem to take forever to smooth out. The older UK-made ones sound better imo.

Dannyz said: There´s a lot of information about this speaker, but sometimes it gets confusing. 50% of people love it, the other 50% hate it. Ive heard from various folks that it sound better than the Heritage UK version (and a lot more expensive). Others said that it takes a life to loosen up the cone. So, whats the final word about this speaker? Click to expand...

De Batz

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Joined Nov 13, 2015 Messages 3,527 Reaction score 3,222

sonicmessiah said: The newer Chinese-made ones are too bright for me & seem to take forever to smooth out. The older UK-made ones sound better imo. Click to expand...

To be fair, I'm talking about late 90s through to about late 00s production. I haven't had a new one for a long time. There's also a possibility that I'm conflating the G12H-30 with the Tayden Great Brit, which is a similar speaker but not exactly the same...

blackba

Silver Supporting Member Joined Dec 10, 2005 Messages 13,934 Reaction score 9,180 Location Michigan, USA I generally like the anni G12H30's, but they are far from my favorite speaker. I find a pair typically too boomy in a closed back 212 cab, they work better in an opened back cab. I used to run them with my '66 Vox AC50 and liked the chime, but sometimes they would be a bit on the harsh side. I switched to a scumback H75 and scumnico and have never had them sound harsh, but they also don't have the chime and bite of the anni G12H30's.

Terry McInturff

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Joined Nov 4, 2003 Messages 7,550 Reaction score 13,719 Location Pittsboro NC I have a pair of G12H30's along with a pair of G12M in an older Marshall 4x12. They work very well for me. E

EastCoastRocker

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Joined Sep 30, 2009 Messages 1,884 Reaction score 808 Funny that I came across this post because I'm installing my G12H30 back in one of my cabinets today. I bought the speaker with great optimism . I have Mojave amps, and they use them along with Alnico Blues , individually or paired. I hated it! I wanted to like it, but it didn't work for me, so off to the storage closet it went. I will say, however, that I made a couple of recordings with it through my sidewinder and the G12H30 sounded really good recorded when I used certain guitars. I just couldn't connect with it otherwise. Earlier this week I decided to free it from exile give it another try. Once I reinstall it, I'll report back. M

mikoo69

Silver Supporting Member Joined Jul 17, 2006 Messages 2,565 Reaction score 643 I have a pair of G12H (75hz) in a Kerry Wright 2x12 and they sound awesome. Thinking of replacing one of them with a Celestion Blue to get the best of ceramic and Alnico. Anyone want to trade a blue for a G12H Heritage? Might also try this combo in the AC30 I have.

Humble Texan Fan

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Guinness Lad said: Not sure, never looked at the cones of these, only V30's. Click to expand...

Should say at the back, really. You see the first Heritage G12H30 rereleased was the bass cone/ 55Hz one which is quite full sounding - Hendrix is supposed to have used these later on for that liquid tone of his. Later Celestion reissued the lead cone/ 75Hz version, which is what I was refering to, the original release known for being used by Jimmy Page and others.

Guinness Lad

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Joined Nov 11, 2004 Messages 15,842 Reaction score 4,430 Location On top a mountain of Chocolate Chips

Humble Texan Fan said: Should say at the back, really. You see the first Heritage G12H30 rereleased was the bass cone/ 55Hz one which is quite full sounding - Hendrix is supposed to have used these later on for that liquid tone of his. Later Celestion reissued the lead cone/ 75Hz version, which is what I was refering to, the original release known for being used by Jimmy Page and others. Click to expand...

The speakers I'm talking about are 90's versions.

Humble Texan Fan

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Guinness Lad said: The speakers I'm talking about are 90's versions. Click to expand...

You mean the 70th Anni version then; the half-way to V30 ones? :S A

abnerfm

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Joined Jan 22, 2009 Messages 3,390 Reaction score 446 Location São Paulo, Brazil For those who say it has too much bass and treble, and/or suggest it has no mids, I made a blind test between the G12H-30 Anniversary and a Vintage 30... my friends thought the G12H was the Vintage 30 because in fact it has mids. Sweet mids. Mine doesn't sound harsh at all. It's been forever since I want to try the Heritage one but, every time I play through mine I get compliments and have no desire to replace it. It surely smoothed out a lot since I have it and sounds great through anything except a Two Rock Custom Reverb. But I must admit not all of them (tried 3 different ones) sounded like mine, maybe mine is well broken in. By the way, mine is the chinese one. The other speaker in the cab was a V30, which I replaced by a chinese Greenback. Couldn't be happier. Amps are a Dr. Z Remedy and a Mark Kane Trainwreck Express clone

Hapax Legonemon

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Joined Jun 21, 2016 Messages 218 Reaction score 263 Location Yukon, Canada I have a G12H 70th Anniversary paired with a Creamback H in a Venus 6 combo and it's the best pairing of speakers for this amp that I've tried (including Creams, Golds, WGS Blackhawk HP, V30's, Jensen P12, and almost every combination of them.) I'm using it as a clean/edge-of-breakup Country-Blues amp + pedals. The G12H 70th really fills in the bottom well. It's the stock speaker for this amp. Edit: December 05. I now swear by WGS Retro 30's for the Venus 6. The G12H 70th Anniversary is still an awesome speaker. Last edited: Dec 11, 2017

Leonc

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Platinum Supporting Member Joined Jan 4, 2002 Messages 19,508 Reaction score 11,004 Location Upstairs, L.A. Generally speaking, they are among my favorite speakers...but even the G12H 70th Anniv isn't right for everything, IMO. As others have pointed out, you have to match the speaker to the application. Prev

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