Sig P320 Compact Vs G43x Vs P365xl
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PistolJack
Joined Jan 29, 2021 Messages 13 Likes 17 Feedback: 0 / 0 / 0 Any comments on the P320 Compact? Initially was going to pick up a Glock 43x and then came across the P320 Compact. Not going to carry it that often. More of a house gun and range gun for the wife. Also considering P365 xl, but since already have a P365 thinking something different. Thanksimstuner
NES Member Joined Jun 22, 2009 Messages 428 Likes 350 Feedback: 31 / 0 / 0 I have the p320 compact, carry, full size, p365xl and p365. The p365 is my favorite carry do to the size and round capacity. I use a p365XL grip on my P365. I like the sights on the P320C better than the M18 sights, not a fan of the wider sight ears on the M18. Have you shot any of the Sigs that you mentioned? I'm not a fan of Glocks, they feel like bricks in my hands. Last edited: Feb 4, 2021 Hhminsky
NES Life Member NES Member Joined Dec 2, 2005 Messages 9,236 Likes 5,769 Feedback: 82 / 0 / 0 How do you like the P320 full size? Have you ever shot a P226? I'm curious how you'd compare the feel.imstuner
NES Member Joined Jun 22, 2009 Messages 428 Likes 350 Feedback: 31 / 0 / 0 I'm sorry that I can't make a comparison on that since I don't own a P226. I feel there's a little bit less recoil on my M17 and X5 Legion but still prefer my p320C and M18 which has the carry grip and same slide length as the compact. PPistolJack
Joined Jan 29, 2021 Messages 13 Likes 17 Feedback: 0 / 0 / 0 Thanks for the feedback. No I haven’t shot the XL or P320C yet, but on my list to do so. My wife isn’t a big fan of shooting the P365 or my G3c so was thinking the P320c would be less recoil and easier for her to shoot and a cool gun for me to add to the collection! If she still isn’t a fan I’ll grab her something in a 22. Last edited: Feb 4, 2021dcmdon
NES Member Joined Jan 27, 2009 Messages 14,067 Likes 4,116 Location Central NH and Boston Metro West Feedback: 34 / 0 / 1 If you are just looking for another toy, then get the 320. Your posts suggest this. "Also considering P365 xl, but since already have a P365 thinking something different." If you are looking for a self defense tool, then there is really no reason to get a 320 if you live in MA. Here's why: 1) If you want a double stack "compact" sized gun, then get a G19. With a Glock you can use pre-ban mags and carry the gun legally with 16 rounds. So at least you get large capacity with all that bulk. 2) The 365 XL shoots just as well as a 320 compact. Its thinner, and lighter and easier to carry, and amazingly has no more recoil. I write this as a dyed in the wool Glock Biggot. The P365 or XL is superior to the G43X in almost every way. It holds more ammo(than a regular 43), it recoils less, its easier to hold, its trigger is better. The net is that its a similar sized gun that holds more (or the same for a 43X)ammunition and is easier to shoot. Superior. So in the end. If you want a larger double stack gun - get the Glock. If you want a smaller gun, get the sig. The 365 is the easiest to shoot small gun I’ve ever shot. (Includes Kahr P9, G43, Bodyguard, Sig 938, Walther something or other, springfield XDS). Shooting steel I am faster and more accurate with the 365 than I am with my G26 and almost as fast as I am with my G19. The trigger is perfect for a defensive gun, the sights are excellent. The gun needs nothing. It is a complete package. IMHO its the best carry gun you can buy right now. And, again, I say this as a Glock bigot. The 365 is the only sig I own.ReluctantDecoy
NES Member Joined Oct 17, 2017 Messages 7,104 Likes 9,240 Location Cambridge, MA Feedback: 1 / 0 / 0 If you already have a subcompact for EDC, then go larger for the nightstand gun if you don't plan on carrying it daily. Something that has the best options for a light and options for preban for max capacity (if you live in MA). So then the answer boils down to basically G19 or G17, or any P80 kit build that produces roughly the same thing. I would also consider something that can run Beretta prebans.dcmdon
NES Member Joined Jan 27, 2009 Messages 14,067 Likes 4,116 Location Central NH and Boston Metro West Feedback: 34 / 0 / 1ReluctantDecoy said: If you already have a subcompact for EDC, then go larger for the nightstand gun if you don't plan on carrying it daily. Something that has the best options for a light and options for preban for max capacity (if you live in MA). So then the answer boils down to basically G19 or G17, or any P80 kit build that produces roughly the same thing. I would also consider something that can run Beretta prebans. Click to expand...Great points. I recently suggested that a friend get a G34 to compliment his P365. he is very happy. Shoots even better than a duty sized gun. Perfect for range or home defense. And legal standard capacity mags. Its often said that guns like the P320 Compact and G19 are the most versatile guns you can buy. I agree. But most of us aren't constrained to just 1 gun. So specialization often yields better results. The G19 / 320 Compact aren't particularly easy to conceal or carry. They also don't shoot as well as their larger brethren. (G34 / 320 X5) So often the "compact" 320 and G19 end up just sitting in the safe, once you end up buying something smaller and something larger. But then again, you shouldn't be buying a 320 for self defense anyway. You are limited to 10 rounds. With the Glock you can have standard capacity mags for a not unreasonable premium. Last edited: Apr 26, 2021 P
PistolJack
Joined Jan 29, 2021 Messages 13 Likes 17 Feedback: 0 / 0 / 0 Thanks for the ideas and thoughts. I was actually looking at the P320 XFive Legion last night and was thinking I should just go big for a shooting pistol and home defense. I will check out the G34 now...dcmdon
NES Member Joined Jan 27, 2009 Messages 14,067 Likes 4,116 Location Central NH and Boston Metro West Feedback: 34 / 0 / 1 One thing. Glocks don't necessarily "feel good" in your hand. They feel kind of like a 1x3 furring strip. But I've played around with this and how "good" a gun feels in your hand has nothing to do with how well you shoot it. I have owned a M&P9 as well as a VP9. Both feel wonderful in the hand. But I shot my Glocks better. My custom 1911 feels wonderful in my hand. But when I'm trying to blend speed with practical accuracy, I shoot my G34 better. (When shot slow the 1911 puts the Glock to shame, but that's another story) For what its worth, the Gen 5 guns seem to be more accurate. My Gen 5 G19 seems more accurate than my Gen 4 G34, when shot for group.ReluctantDecoy
NES Member Joined Oct 17, 2017 Messages 7,104 Likes 9,240 Location Cambridge, MA Feedback: 1 / 0 / 0dcmdon said: For what its worth, the Gen 5 guns seem to be more accurate. My Gen 5 G19 seems more accurate than my Gen 4 G34, when shot for group. Click to expand...Do you think it's the new ledges they added to the polygonal rifling in the Gen 5? I was curious if that was just a marketing thing, but maybe it does produce results.
dcmdon
NES Member Joined Jan 27, 2009 Messages 14,067 Likes 4,116 Location Central NH and Boston Metro West Feedback: 34 / 0 / 1 I don't know. I wonder if its that or that the shorter bbl is stiffer. People running optics are finding that the short barreled guns are generally more accurate. With sights, the long slice/barrel gives you a longer sight radius, which improves practical accuracy. So this kind of thing doesn't become apparent until you put a dot sight on each gun. I'll let you know when I get a gen 5 34. ha.BigAl23
Joined Jun 16, 2015 Messages 2,132 Likes 1,216 Location NE Feedback: 72 / 0 / 0dcmdon said: One thing. Glocks don't necessarily "feel good" in your hand. They feel kind of like a 1x3 furring strip. But I've played around with this and how "good" a gun feels in your hand has nothing to do with how well you shoot it. I have owned a M&P9 as well as a VP9. Both feel wonderful in the hand. But I shot my Glocks better. My custom 1911 feels wonderful in my hand. But when I'm trying to blend speed with practical accuracy, I shoot my G34 better. (When shot slow the 1911 puts the Glock to shame, but that's another story) For what its worth, the Gen 5 guns seem to be more accurate. My Gen 5 G19 seems more accurate than my Gen 4 G34, when shot for group. Click to expand...I agree with this. I tried 5 Shields and 2 M&P9's and could never be very accurate with any of them. Glocks, different story. I was more accurate with a G26 than all of the carry guns I've owned except the Kahr P9. As far as range guns, the ones I was best with......92FS, XDM9. Oh and when a friend of mine got his VP9sk, my first shot was a bullseye at 9 yards. That gun fits in the hand like it was meant to be there. Wish H&K would make it Ma compliant. (For the non Ma prices)
paul73
NES Member Joined Oct 30, 2020 Messages 17,993 Likes 21,621 Location MA Feedback: 6 / 0 / 0dcmdon said: The 365 is the easiest to shoot small gun I’ve ever shot. (Includes Kahr P9, G43, Bodyguard, Sig 938, Walther something or other, springfield XDS). Shooting steel I am faster and more accurate with the 365 than I am with my G26 and almost as fast as I am with my G19. The trigger is perfect for a defensive gun, the sights are excellent. The gun needs nothing. It is a complete package. IMHO its the best carry gun you can buy right now. And, again, I say this as a Glock bigot. The 365 is the only sig I own. Click to expand...so, i also got stuck with glocks for most of my life, and, i think the thing with p365 is mostly due to the hand size - a medium size palm just wraps it very well, and it is why it feels and shoots so damn fine. may be folks with bigger hands do not share the same opinion, and those with small hands cannot handle it well, but, damn - i agree 100% - compared to g43 that little sig is a joy to handle. just the front sight is too fat for my liking, but it does not affect the ability to shoot great at 5 and 10 yds. but, btw, as i was shooting with my 14yr old son - he handles now g17 acceptably well - so - i gave him a p365 to try, and he was not good with it, at all. could not do a tight group at 5yds, all shots were good 5-6 inches apart. he pretty much rejected it after than, and also said it kicks too much. may be not enough muscles and body mass in arms yet - go figure. with g17 iron sighs he plants most of his shots into a 2" circle when he tries. so, go figure. Last edited: Feb 6, 2021
richc
NES Member Joined Oct 21, 2008 Messages 32,740 Likes 124,267 Location metrowest Feedback: 54 / 0 / 0 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/special-forces-pistols-1.5897942 "Consequently, the military has withdrawn all the brand new SIG Sauer P320s from service and members of the unit will — for the time being — rely on their old model SIG Sauer P226 pistols."imstuner
NES Member Joined Jun 22, 2009 Messages 428 Likes 350 Feedback: 31 / 0 / 0richc said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/special-forces-pistols-1.5897942 "Consequently, the military has withdrawn all the brand new SIG Sauer P320s from service and members of the unit will — for the time being — rely on their old model SIG Sauer P226 pistols." Click to expand...I think the soldier was using the wrong holster with the Sig p320 and that could have been the factor. Still waiting for more details on this.
MaduroBU
Joined Feb 26, 2021 Messages 49 Likes 98 Location Houston, TX Feedback: 0 / 0 / 0 I shot my step-dad's P320 expecting to detest the trigger and....didn't. I am critical of Sig's triggers in even their DA/SA guns (they're either exceptional or just bad), but that felt excellent to me. I assume that the P365 has a very similar system, so it won't help you differentiate there, but it was night and day better than any Glock I've ever shot (including my G19, which has a ZEV trigger kit). The P320 is kind of a lego kit- once you get the FCG from your FFL, you can just buy parts off of Midway and make 10 different guns out of it. I'm still very unfamiliar with the laws up there, but the option of having a subcompact and a full-size and a compact and a long barrel competition gun all out of one legal "firearm" might be a way to jump through fewer hoops. I shoot a P226X5, and am no longer sure if the P320X5 is really a step down. That matters since one of them is $5000 and one is $1000. hat said, the G34 is a fine gun and plenty of far better shooters than I swear by them. Pick what fits your hand. Post reply Insert quotes… Share: X (Twitter) LinkedIn Reddit Share Link- Forums
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