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Thread starter rreiser
Start date Mar 26, 2014

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Silver Supporting Member Messages 2,228 Has anyone compared the two speakers ? I use clean 50% and distorted 50%. What are your opinions on the differences ? Thanks Gnarlly

Gnarlly

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Messages 2,865 I have one of each in a 2x12 open back cab, and have compared them individually. They are both tight and very efficient speakers (100db @ 1 watt). V30 brings a lot of mids, while the Creamback H75 sounds more "mid-scooped" with more highs, chime, and big bass (very much like a G12H30). They complement each other very well and sound fantastic paired together, both clean and distorted. R

rkj

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Gnarlly said: I have one of each in a 2x12 open back cab, and have compared them individually. They are both tight and very efficient speakers (100db @ 1 watt). V30 brings a lot of mids, while the Creamback H75 sounds more "mid-scooped" with more highs, chime, and big bass (very much like a G12H30). They complement each other very well and sound fantastic paired together, both clean and distorted. Click to expand...

Well said. I had one of each in a 2x12 and that description is accurate. Believe it or not, I found the V30 more versatile and mated better with more amps.

LPMojoGL

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Gnarlly said: I have one of each in a 2x12 open back cab, and have compared them individually. They are both tight and very efficient speakers (100db @ 1 watt). V30 brings a lot of mids, while the Creamback H75 sounds more "mid-scooped" with more highs, chime, and big bass (very much like a G12H30). They complement each other very well and sound fantastic paired together, both clean and distorted. Click to expand...

I wanna do that pairing. I have a heritage g12h30 55hz in a 2x12 with a v30. The G12h brings on some great low mid raunch. But it kinda sounds weird in a 2x12 with a V30. Not so much like an Anniv g12h30. I bet the CBh75 is a great fit. sinasl1

sinasl1

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Messages 9,994 At the end of the day, a V30 is a really versatile speaker. H75 sounds great to me, yes a bit flatter in the mids but it's really sort of maybe more of everything, than it is a scooped sound. IMHO. Last edited: Sep 6, 2015 E

effectsman

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Gnarlly said: I have one of each in a 2x12 open back cab, and have compared them individually. They are both tight and very efficient speakers (100db @ 1 watt). V30 brings a lot of mids, while the Creamback H75 sounds more "mid-scooped" with more highs, chime, and big bass (very much like a G12H30). They complement each other very well and sound fantastic paired together, both clean and distorted. Click to expand...

Do you still hear the mid spike of the V30 when its paired with the Creamback? I used to love V30s, but now every time I use them my ears (or brain) now zeros in on that mid spike and it drives me nuts! I thought about trying the H & M Creamback together but want to stick with speakers of the same efficiency. Might try the V30 if you think the spike is overshadowed or disguised a bit by the H Creamback? Gnarlly

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tucky said: Do you still hear the mid spike of the V30 when its paired with the Creamback? I used to love V30s, but now every time I use them my ears (or brain) now zeros in on that mid spike and it drives me nuts! I thought about trying the H & M Creamback together but want to stick with speakers of the same efficiency. Might try the V30 if you think the spike is overshadowed or disguised a bit by the H Creamback? Click to expand...

No; the Creamback H75's other frequencies really balance out the prominent mids of the V30 (though my V30 is well broken-in, and doesn't sound that spikey to my ears). Given their similar sensitivity/loudness, both speakers blend very well together, with neither overpowering the mix. I've also tried the Creamback H + M mix; it's more "classic rock" sounding but the H does dominate that mix and to my ears the M tends to get lost a bit. I much prefer the V30 + Creamback H75 mix, and it sounds great for classic and modern tones.

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Messages 1,867 i have a 2x12 open back avatar with a v30 and a g12h30 anniv. paired with a dual showman reverb 100 watt head, and i use it with lots of dirty fuzz for a punk/noise rock band. i was thinking of swapping the g12h30 for the g12h-75 creamback to get some extra wattage/headroom, cos a 100 watt tube head with fuzz is prob too much for the g12h30. gnarlly how sinilar tone wise are those 2 speakers? i really like v30's for being able to cut in a live mix and because they handle high gain/fuzz well, but like that the g12h30 gives a little more body to the tone. my main concern throwing in the g12h-75 creamback would be that it would doninate the v30 and my tone might get a little muddy. thoughts? Gnarlly

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jondom22 said: i have a 2x12 open back avatar with a v30 and a g12h30 anniv. paired with a dual showman reverb 100 watt head, and i use it with lots of dirty fuzz for a punk/noise rock band. i was thinking of swapping the g12h30 for the g12h-75 creamback to get some extra wattage/headroom, cos a 100 watt tube head with fuzz is prob too much for the g12h30. gnarlly how sinilar tone wise are those 2 speakers? i really like v30's for being able to cut in a live mix and because they handle high gain/fuzz well, but like that the g12h30 gives a little more body to the tone. my main concern throwing in the g12h-75 creamback would be that it would doninate the v30 and my tone might get a little muddy. thoughts? Click to expand...

To my ears the H75 Creamback is very similar to the G12H30 but with even bigger low end that stays tight and a high end that is still fairly bright but thicker and not as piercing. The speaker definitely adds body but is clear and does not sound muddy to me. It balances very well with the V30, similar to the G12H30.

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Gnarlly said: To my ears the H75 Creamback is very similar to the G12H30 but with even bigger low end that stays tight and a high end that is still fairly bright but thicker and not as piercing. The speaker definitely adds body but is clear and does not sound muddy to me. It balances very well with the V30, similar to the G12H30. Click to expand...

interesting. my main concern is being able to cut in a loud punk/noise band mix, which is why i love the v30 for its aggressive upper mids. thus, would the 75 creamback make it sound too woofy? is it still very mid forward sounding? will it overpower the v30? thanks!! Gnarlly

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jondom22 said: interesting. my main concern is being able to cut in a loud punk/noise band mix, which is why i love the v30 for its aggressive upper mids. thus, would the 75 creamback make it sound too woofy? is it still very mid forward sounding? will it overpower the v30? thanks!! Click to expand...

In response to your questions: No, it is not woofy in my Avatar 2x12 open back. No, it is not as mid-forward sounding as the Vintage 30. No, it will not overpower the V30; same efficiency rating means it produces the same level of volume with the same input power.

gulliver

Silver Supporting Member Messages 17,346 I've never had the creamback but had several V30s and a number of H type speakers. People always compare the voicing, but the biggest difference is the grit. H speakers have a real jagged crunch and V30s have kind of a powder puffy grit. Really, a big difference when shaping your tone. J

JYD

Silver Supporting Member Messages 1,062 Bump. I think Im gonna do a V30/H75 Cback mix in my diagonal 2x12 with my Splawn. Tompski

Tompski

Gold Supporting Member Messages 1,794 I've just blown the V30 in my JVM 215C, and have been thinking about the Creamback 75, are they similar as stand alone speakers? I love the grit you get from the V30 and it's squidgy malleable kind of gain. Is the Creamback similar but fuller?

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Messages 595 I REALY DON'T UNDERSTAND how we can compare the relative merits of (much less make any kind of sensible recommendation regarding) these two speakers based on the OP saying he plays "clean 50% and distorted 50%." It's not enough information! What if he meant "clean 50% (like Mark Tremonti) and distorted 50% (like Ola Englund)"? What if he meant "clean 50% (like BB King) and distorted 50% (like Albert Lee)"? What if he meant "clean 50% (like Dream Theater) and distorted 50% (like Van Halen)"? What if he meant "clean 50% (like Les Paul) and distorted 50% (like George Thorogood)"? What if he meant "clean 50% (like Norman Brown) and distorted 50% (like Robbin Ford/Jeff Beck)"? I mean seriously, both of these speakers are awesome! I mean REALLY awesome... each in their own right, for different types of music in different configurations in different types of cabinets paired with different amps. Do we just like hearing ourselves talk? (except for Pete, he can say whatever he wants). DiPa

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Silver Supporting Member Messages 22,119 Have both, what I tend to hear, the v30 are more aggressive... Creamback has some nice low end and wider mids. V30 can be bright... jlinde

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Messages 1,630 I've got both of them hear right now....the h30 is more scooped than the creamback. I don't like either one in my opinion...and I have the heritage England ones...anybody want them, PM me. I want them gone. jlinde

jlinde

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Messages 1,630 I'm sorry...this is edit. I also have a v30 and like it better than h30 or cream...I'm not selling the v30. If that helps?? sg~guy

sg~guy

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Messages 681 -there are many versions of the V-30,..all with different voiceing,...-(there's more than one thread dedicated to the different V-30's)- to my & many others,.. the best V-30's are the original "MARSHALL VINTAGE"(black & gold) speakers,... and the MESA V-30's-(you can still buy these from MESA)- seems the more recent the V-30 the more pronounced the dreaded mid-spike... -V-30's are great speakers to mix & match with,... I mix V-30's & GRENBACKS with awesome results -(friedman cabs also do this)- -the voiceing of the speaker has a far greater impact on sound over wattage,db's & efficiency .... -creambacks sound like a smoother 65 to me- -the annies might be the worst speaker I have had the misfortune of spending money on,... I couldn't get them out of my cab fast enough.. -of course this is just here say-

papersoul

Silver Supporting Member Messages 14,851 I love the thickness and punch of V30s. My favorite are any of the Hella tone V30s. I bought a set a few years back from Avatar and they are awesome. Nothing harsh about them. However, they mix well with the G12M65 the best for me.

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