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What exactly makes any of these monitors "better?" Reiidar By Reiidar March 7, 2022 in Displays Share https://linustechtips.com/topic/1416518-what-exactly-makes-any-of-these-monitors-better/ More sharing options... Followers 1 Go to solution Solved by SolarNova, March 8, 2022
35 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

I looked through other offerings from MSI and I found the MSI OPTIX G241 24", is it the same as the 27" model but just a bit smaller? It also has a negligible ~$5-8 price difference with the LG.

The MSi G241 uses the same panel as the AOC 24G2 apparently.

 

However, how it performs can be substantially affected by the tuning / firmware implemented by the brand manufacturer. As such the good factory calibration of the AOC, and pixel response will likely not be identical in the MSi version.

 

how it will actually perform i dont know, i cant see any sufficient reviews of the MSi G241

 

IF, and i do stress the IF, the MSi G241 performs similarly to the AOC 24G2, then here is the comparison between the 27" MSi G273 and the AOC 24G2 (potentially the MSi G241)

https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/aoc-24g2-vs-msi-optix-mag273r/5503/14746?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

 

  • Reiidar Apprentice

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    Currently I am using a Benq GW2283 I got it on sale for less than $100 and used to be my 2nd monitor for my laptop. Now I'm looking for an upgrade, I'm eyeing the MSI OPTIX G273 and the LG 24GN600-B.

    They both have an IPS panel and high refresh rate, both features I'm looking for. But I don't exactly understand what makes any of these better, the MSI monitor is $67 more expensive than the LG. With the difference of the two being:

    • MSI: 27" , LG: 24"
    • MSI: sRGB 131%, LG: sRGB 99%, Benq: sRGB 99%
    • MSI: G-sync, LG: Freesync

    The brightness are in the same range and I most likely won't be having the monitors at full brightness anyway. A main concern of mine is buying the display that looks the best within 1080p. With these out of the way I have a couple of questions, specifically: 1. Besides the higher refresh rate and larger size, what exactly makes these two options a better upgrade?

    2. Both the Benq monitor I'm using and the LG monitor have 99% sRGB, does this mean if I play the same game at 60fps (I won't but let's make this an example) on both monitor on the same brightness would I be able to perceive any difference?

    3. How noticeable if any is MSI's specification of 131% sRGB compared to 99% sRGB? Because both the LG and MSI monitors are IPS 144/165hz monitors with one being quite a bit more expensive than the other.

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    12 minutes ago, James Evens said:

    Is there a store close by with those on display?

    The coating can make a huge difference meaning if you can/they are on display buy them locally and not online.

    Unfortunately not, I live away from the city and even if I go visit the store there is no assurance that both would be in stock. But regarding the sRGB values advertised, is there a significant difference between the two?  I've checked all of their specs and all of them are listed as "anti-glare", a quick google search also tells me a glossy finish looks more vivid by comparison. My room doesn't get bright at all, does this mean I should be looking to get a monitor with a glossy finish if I'm placing a lot of value into how it looks?

     

    Edit: Yeah as far as my google searching is going, I don't think they even have Gaming monitors with a glossy finish.

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    i suggest you read my pinned thread. it explains what to look for and why marketing materials can be misleading.

     

     

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    23 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

    i suggest you read my pinned thread. it explains what to look for and why marketing materials can be misleading.

     

     

    I've just finished reading, I suppose my next question would be "am I in buying in the right price range?". I don't mind paying a little more because cheaper doesn't automatically mean better value. It's just that if I go above the price range of these two (and the MSI one in this instance) the only feature I see that's different is built-in speakers or 240+hz refresh rate which I don't want. In retrospect this entire post could also be "Is spending ~$70 more on an MSI monitor over LG worth it for what they offer?" Of course it could very well be subjective but I also want to hear your answers anyway.

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    57 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

    I've just finished reading, I suppose my next question would be "am I in buying in the right price range?". I don't mind paying a little more because cheaper doesn't automatically mean better value. It's just that if I go above the price range of these two (and the MSI one in this instance) the only feature I see that's different is built-in speakers or 240+hz refresh rate which I don't want. In retrospect this entire post could also be "Is spending ~$70 more on an MSI monitor over LG worth it for what they offer?" Of course it could very well be subjective but I also want to hear your answers anyway.

    Every single model of monitor will perform different, even if they have the same advertised 'specs'.

     

    As such u can only really know the difference between models of the same or similar specs by looking at proper reviews, if they exist. If they dont, ur guess is as good as mine..for the most part.

     

    In this regard the 3 monitors u mention dont seem to have any good reviews to look at for a full comparison of all 3, at least from my cursory glance. if u know of any do link them so we can take a gander.

     

    Until we find any we can only go by some basic understandings of the tech and the manufacturers.

     

    LG for example, their IPS panels are notorious for having lower than average contrast.

     

    While we dont have reviews on hand for those specific models, we do for some nearby models. Like the 27GN650B from LG and MAG273R from MSI (which seems to be the same panel just different ergonomics).

    https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/msi-optix-mag273r-vs-lg-27gn650-b/14746/23196?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

    Of the 2 the MSi is the better imo due to contrast and black uniformity.

    The lg has faster pixel response and better factory calibration. However while the MSI is likely the same panel as the G273, the LG 27GN650 is completely different vs the 24GN600.

    Generally speaking in the budget area of display MSi on average seems to have the better results. However this is a generalization, a guesstimate,  not a guarantee.

     

    Now ..is it worth $70 more? That will be down to if u have any inclination to buy cheaper now and save for something better in the future, or just stick with what ur going to get now.

    If the later then i'd say yes, get the MSi.

    If no, and u want to buy something cheap now and get something better later, then make do with ur benQ and dont by anything yet.

     

    You could also take a look through the following list see what comes up in ur price range for where ur shopping.

    https://www.rtings.com/user/ratings/monitor/jpJ4T-vgKX2VQQ

     

    The AOC 24G2 is one of the best performing super budget 24" 1080p IPS displays around, but may have had its price inflated due to how well it sold. Should be around $180. if its closer in price to the MSi, get the MSI.

     

    I know its not a definitive answer for you, but at this kinda budget, its not an easy one.

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    20 hours ago, SolarNova said:

    Now ..is it worth $70 more? That will be down to if u have any inclination to buy cheaper now and save for something better in the future, or just stick with what ur going to get now.

    If the later then i'd say yes, get the MSi.

    If no, and u want to buy something cheap now and get something better later, then make do with ur benQ and dont by anything yet.

    I looked through other offerings from MSI and I found the MSI OPTIX G241 24", is it the same as the 27" model but just a bit smaller? It also has a negligible ~$5-8 price difference with the LG.

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    Instead of just trying to compare quite different monitors we could go another route:

     

    Give us your

    - budget

    - specs and size

    - region and currency

    (- optionally the stores you can buy/order from)

     

    This way we can make firm recommendations with monitors that are known to be good, rather than speculating on monitors that have not (or rarely) been reviewed. @SolarNova's pinned post makes good points on why it's almost worthless to just compare specs from the box. I also wrote a rant about that in my signature if you're interested. Reviews are important because brands can basically put on the box/spec sheet what they want.

    If someone did not use reason to reach their conclusion in the first place, you cannot use reason to convince them otherwise.

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    35 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

    I looked through other offerings from MSI and I found the MSI OPTIX G241 24", is it the same as the 27" model but just a bit smaller? It also has a negligible ~$5-8 price difference with the LG.

    The MSi G241 uses the same panel as the AOC 24G2 apparently.

     

    However, how it performs can be substantially affected by the tuning / firmware implemented by the brand manufacturer. As such the good factory calibration of the AOC, and pixel response will likely not be identical in the MSi version.

     

    how it will actually perform i dont know, i cant see any sufficient reviews of the MSi G241

     

    IF, and i do stress the IF, the MSi G241 performs similarly to the AOC 24G2, then here is the comparison between the 27" MSi G273 and the AOC 24G2 (potentially the MSi G241)

    https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/aoc-24g2-vs-msi-optix-mag273r/5503/14746?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

     

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    Personally, at normal monitor distance, I would stay away from 1080p 27" monitor as the pixel density gets so low.

     

    I would recommend either 24" for 1080p or 27" for 1440p.

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    1 hour ago, SolarNova said:

    The MSi G241 uses the same panel as the AOC 24G2 apparently.

     

    However, how it performs can be substantially affected by the tuning / firmware implemented by the brand manufacturer. As such the good factory calibration of the AOC, and pixel response will likely not be identical in the MSi version.

     

    how it will actually perform i dont know, i cant see any sufficient reviews of the MSi G241

     

    IF, and i do stress the IF, the MSi G241 performs similarly to the AOC 24G2, then here is the comparison between the 27" MSi G273 and the AOC 24G2 (potentially the MSi G241)

    https://www.rtings.com/monitor/tools/compare/aoc-24g2-vs-msi-optix-mag273r/5503/14746?usage=3623&threshold=0.10

     

    I live in Southeast Asia, is this the AOC 24G2 your are referring to? It's even cheaper than the MSI G241 and at the same price as the LG monitor. The seller is the official AOC store.

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    4 minutes ago, Reiidar said:

    I live in Southeast Asia, is this the AOC 24G2 your are referring to? It's even cheaper than the MSI G241 and at the same price as the LG monitor. The seller is the official AOC store.

    Yes thats the one.

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    1 hour ago, SolarNova said:

    Yes thats the one.

    Okay I'll be taking this then. Thanks a lot for your time.

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