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06-28-2015, 02:41 PM #1
wordsworth03 Private First Class 24Rep 120Posts Drives: na Join Date: May 2015 Location: na iTrader: (0) X5 50i vs X5m Hey guys, I am currently debating between an X5 50i vs X5m. Did you guys cross shop prior to purchasing? What pushed you one way or another? I really don't have space for 2 cars because otherwise I would just get a separate sports car. I'm not sure if the price difference is worth it to me. I know there are people that say once you drive the M, it makes it clear how much better it is but that isn't specific enough for me. I've read the M drives better but it seems like if you get the DHP with torque vectoring that drivability will be similar. As far as speed, seems like the 50i runs high 12s in the 1/4 mile while the M runs low 12s which is a pretty good difference, but maybe not a 25k difference. If it ran consistently in the 11s, that might be a different story. Thanks!
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06-28-2015, 02:48 PM #2
dsad1 Colonel 1214Rep 2,404Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0) What do you currently drive? What are you used to? 50i is fast and feels great, but obviously the M is faster and feels better. It depends how you drive and what you are used to driving. Most of us don't need an M or even a 50i for that matter, but we choose to get them for pure joy. Only you can decide if that amount of joy is worth the money or not.
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06-28-2015, 02:53 PM #3
wordsworth03 Private First Class 24Rep 120Posts Drives: na Join Date: May 2015 Location: na iTrader: (0) I'm in a Nissan Murano right now. It is great car but it is too slow. I had an Audi S8 for a short period of time and that was a blast but not reasonable with kids and frequent road trips. I considered an RS7 but even with its large trunk, it isn't quite big enough for us. Also considering an E63 wagon but the ground clearance worries me since we go to the mountains a lot and like to go on hikes that go down some unmaintained dirt roads. The X5 seems like the best all-in-one compromise, but now I guess I need to figure out how much speed I really need
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06-28-2015, 03:08 PM #4
MattBianco Lieutenant Colonel MattBianco's Avatar United_States 1310Rep 1,886Posts Drives: 2015 X5 35d msport Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Marin, California iTrader: (0) wdimagineer has recently switched to M from 50i. Besides his in-depth knowledge of many things BMW, he has first hand experience. I would also ask in this forum http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=509 as others have likely done the switch and been in your position. __________________ Amber or Red Rear Turn Signals? Vote/have your say: LINK. Post your MPGs 100L/km here: LINK X5 F15 Engines Compared LINK Take the BMW X5 F15 Survey: LINK See the Results: LINK N57 Diesel Tuning Chips Compared LINK
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06-28-2015, 03:27 PM #5
wordsworth03 Private First Class 24Rep 120Posts Drives: na Join Date: May 2015 Location: na iTrader: (0) Quote:
Originally Posted by MattBianco View Post wdimagineer has recently switched to M from 50i. Besides his in-depth knowledge of many things BMW, he has first hand experience. I would also ask in this forum http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=509 as others have likely done the switch and been in your position.
Thanks for that info. I've been lurking in the F85 forums for a while now but didnt ask this question there because I know the answer would be the M. Also, this forum gets more traffic.
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06-28-2015, 03:36 PM #6
dsad1 Colonel 1214Rep 2,404Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0) Quote:
Originally Posted by wordsworth03 View Post I'm in a Nissan Murano right now. It is great car but it is too slow. I had an Audi S8 for a short period of time and that was a blast but not reasonable with kids and frequent road trips. I considered an RS7 but even with its large trunk, it isn't quite big enough for us. Also considering an E63 wagon but the ground clearance worries me since we go to the mountains a lot and like to go on hikes that go down some unmaintained dirt roads. The X5 seems like the best all-in-one compromise, but now I guess I need to figure out how much speed I really need
Coming from the Murano, I think you would be more than satisfied with the 50i and have no regrets. My one caveat would be, don't test drive the M. If you really care to save some money, the ignorance will be bliss. I got a 50i for my wife and I am highly impressed by it. I did end up ordering an X5M for myself, but not because I actually thought the 50i wasn't enough, it was purely based on looks and color choices.
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06-28-2015, 03:43 PM #7
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Originally Posted by djsaad1 View Post Coming from the Murano, I think you would be more than satisfied with the 50i and have no regrets. My one caveat would be, don't test drive the M. If you really care to save some money, the ignorance will be bliss. I got a 50i for my wife and I am highly impressed by it. I did end up ordering an X5M for myself, but not because I actually thought the 50i wasn't enough, it was purely based on looks and color choices.
Good to know - thanks for your opinion. I also agree about the paint. I really am not a fan of any of the standard colors on the 50i and my CA said they don't do custom paint on this model (though I read on another thread that they might?). I love Donington Grey.
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06-28-2015, 03:47 PM #8
dsad1 Colonel 1214Rep 2,404Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0) Quote:
Originally Posted by wordsworth03 View Post Good to know - thanks for your opinion. I also agree about the paint. I really am not a fan of any of the standard colors on the 50i and my CA said they don't do custom paint on this model (though I read on another thread that they might?). I love Donington Grey.
I read on another thread that they might too. But I asked the VIP ordering specialist at BMWNA that I used a few times before and her response was Quote:
Unfortunately, special order paints are not available on any of the Plant Spartanburg vehicles.
That was after my CA already told me it's not possible too.
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06-28-2015, 04:22 PM #9
wordsworth03 Private First Class 24Rep 120Posts Drives: na Join Date: May 2015 Location: na iTrader: (0) Yeah, he forwarded me the email he sent out and I got the exact same response.
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06-28-2015, 05:59 PM #10
Kzang Major General Kzang's Avatar 3255Rep 5,075Posts Drives: 2015 X5 35i Msport SG Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: East Coast iTrader: (0) I believe the M suspension and handling is nothing like the standard BMW cars and SUV even with the DHP option. The power delivery and overall experience is what will cost you additional.
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06-28-2015, 06:11 PM #11
Taran.J Major General Taran.J's Avatar United_States 1118Rep 7,063Posts Drives: BMW, LEX, MBZ, RAM, TESLA Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graham, WA iTrader: (7) If you financially can the M and don't look back. If you are purchasing again the M, you gotta go into service with something and the aftermarket is going to be flooded for the M not the 35/50's __________________ E90 Build Thread (SOLD) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809436 F15 Build Thread (SOLD) http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1064084
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06-28-2015, 06:47 PM #12
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Originally Posted by Taran.J View Post If you financially can the M and don't look back. If you are purchasing again the M, you gotta go into service with something and the aftermarket is going to be flooded for the M not the 35/50's
What do you mean by go into service with something? I didn't quite catch that
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06-28-2015, 06:56 PM #13
dsad1 Colonel 1214Rep 2,404Posts Drives: car Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0) One other thing to note, if you are leasing, the residual on the M is the same as the 50i. That is a pretty good incentive to get the M.
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Taran.J Major General Taran.J's Avatar United_States 1118Rep 7,063Posts Drives: BMW, LEX, MBZ, RAM, TESLA Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graham, WA iTrader: (7) Quote:
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Originally Posted by Taran.J View Post If you financially can the M and don't look back. If you are purchasing again the M, you gotta go into service with something and the aftermarket is going to be flooded for the M not the 35/50's
What do you mean by go into service with something? I didn't quite catch that
V8 issues. My 750 was riddled with them so we traded it in for a S class a while back. Don't trust bmw V8's __________________ E90 Build Thread (SOLD) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809436 F15 Build Thread (SOLD) http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1064084
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06-28-2015, 06:59 PM #15
Stunnaz Private First Class Stunnaz's Avatar United_States 52Rep 128Posts Drives: 2015 X6 (F16) Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0) The X5M does not have adaptive cruise control, which is something that I enjoy using quite a bit. Also, the tires are not run-flat, which means there's a spare tire underneath the trunk so you will not have storage space there.
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06-28-2015, 07:01 PM #16
kip1 Captain 168Rep 774Posts Drives: X5M50d Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: - iTrader: (0) The 50i is surprisingly fast and both wont be close to a RS7 or E63 anyway in a straight line, so this is a matter of take both cars for a test drive. Because it is not all about speed. The non Ms usually feel very civilized albeit fast, but the M cars are usually very precise and give you also a wonderfull soundtrack etc. Honestly, a test drive is the only way to pick between those cars. Then again the difference is wider if you drive a car without the M package and suspension. Where I live, Ms hold their price better, as they are special, the 50i is just another X5. And if the part about adaptive cc is true, I really cant imagine a big SUV for distance travel without it...
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06-28-2015, 07:45 PM #17
wordsworth03 Private First Class 24Rep 120Posts Drives: na Join Date: May 2015 Location: na iTrader: (0) All great points - thanks guys. Regarding the reliability, it seems like the latest iteration is better but has only been out for a few years. And I agree, the lack of adaptive cruise control is a pretty big deal for me since we do a lot of road trips.
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06-28-2015, 09:27 PM #18
akhter Lieutenant Colonel akhter's Avatar 437Rep 1,694Posts Drives: 911 992 C2S Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hong Kong iTrader: (0) Garage List2014 BMW X5 M Sport ... [0.00]2007 335i M Sport E90 [10.00] assuming you can afford both, for me its simple--do you need 3rd row seats? then you need 5.0. if not x5m. if you don't need the extra trunk space, change to x6 5.0 vs x6m __________________ Current 2021 Porsche 911 992 C2S Sold 2021 X7/2018 X5/2014 X5 Sold 2013 520i/2010 325i Sold E90 335i M Sport Alpine White|Tokyo Sold E36 328i Jet Black|NYC
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06-28-2015, 09:43 PM #19
templarklimek templarklimek United_States 147Rep 868Posts Drives: 15' X6M, 12' R8 V10, Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Houston Texas iTrader: (0) Having owned both a 2015 X6 and now a 2015 X6M the M is surprisingly much better. Besides speed, it handles much better and is quite light on its feet for such a heavy car. The "regular 50i is a wonderful SAV but still has more of a SUV type feel. The X6M is astounding in its dynamics. Leave it in M and its a blast. Alos for me the HUD with the tachometer is fantastic, they should offer it the regular X5/X6. BTW for some reason you get a conventional gauge setup on X6M vs a digital LCD.
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06-28-2015, 10:32 PM #20
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Originally Posted by Taran.J View Post If you financially can the M and don't look back. If you are purchasing again the M, you gotta go into service with something and the aftermarket is going to be flooded for the M not the 35/50's
Sorry, I didn't understand a word of that either?!
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06-28-2015, 10:42 PM #21
Taran.J Major General Taran.J's Avatar United_States 1118Rep 7,063Posts Drives: BMW, LEX, MBZ, RAM, TESLA Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Graham, WA iTrader: (7) Quote:
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Originally Posted by Taran.J View Post If you financially can the M and don't look back. If you are purchasing again the M, you gotta go into service with something and the aftermarket is going to be flooded for the M not the 35/50's
Sorry, I didn't understand a word of that either?!
If you can financially afford the X5M go for it or settle for the X5 50i. The BMW does not make the most reliable V8 engines. Especially with the power they deliver no wonder why the 50i model BMW's depreciate so much since the repair bill is double of what it is for the usual inline 6's. Since OP didn't say he was financing or buying out right that's my overall opinion __________________ E90 Build Thread (SOLD) http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=809436 F15 Build Thread (SOLD) http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1064084
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06-28-2015, 10:54 PM #22
cy07 Lieutenant cy07's Avatar United_States 147Rep 535Posts Drives: 2015 X5 50i 2016 M3 Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Mateo, California iTrader: (1) Quote:
Originally Posted by Taran.J View Post If you can financially afford the X5M go for it or settle for the X5 50i. The BMW does not make the most reliable V8 engines. Especially with the power they deliver no wonder why the 50i model BMW's depreciate so much since the repair bill is double of what it is for the usual inline 6's. Since OP didn't say he was financing or buying out right that's my overall opinion
If reliability is such a high priority for you, perhaps you should buy Japanese. I find it funny people bring up this V8 issue like they can already see it happening lol. It's a German car, I6 and V8 what not. As for OP, you can afford it by all mean go for X5m. 50i is plenty fast for me as a family hauler and I prefer something light and agile like the M3 for fun. __________________ My 2015 Hartge X5 50i build journal http://f15.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1035887 My 2016 F80 M3 build journal http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1166600
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