 01-19-2017, 06:12 PM | #1 (permalink) |
| Rocketman777 Registered Users Join Date: Sep 2009 |  XK K110 vs Blade Nano Hello ....... I have flown various Blade fixed pitch helis and looking to move up to constant speed versions. I own an older Astroid converted Blade Nano CP which I have not flown yet. Just recently, I saw the K110 and the new Blade Nano which look much easier to fly than the older non-gyro Blade Nano. So, what are the pros and cons of each. Any advice would be much appreciated. |
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| 01-19-2017, 06:30 PM | #2 (permalink) |
learnedthehardway Registered Users  Join Date: Feb 2015 | The old nano still had a 3 axis gyro is just didn't have stability mode which is really just flying a fixed pitch heli anyway. Stability/SAFE just added a bunch of electronic quirks to a heli that had enough of them already. The V977 and XK-110 are more stable, durable and reliable than the nano cps which is very well known for being a piece of shit that will give you nothing but trouble. You have to use the tx the xk comes with but it's not bad at all and the rtf xk costs the same as a bnf nano. Even the older version of the 110, the V977 is better than the nano cpx and the cpx is better than the cps from what I've seen. Only owned 2 nano cpx. No comparison, XK-110 all the way. Especially now that you can get parts for it shipped from the US on ebay and other places if you look hard enough. XK/977 have a 6 axis mode that's similar to stability and 3axis for when you're ready to actually fly a collective pitch helicopter __________________ Mini Protos 6s stretch/XK K110/Trex 450sport v2 fbl/Rochobby Nemesis NXT/RareBear funfighter620mm ~Problem Child~ |
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| 01-19-2017, 06:34 PM | #3 (permalink) |
bredler Registered Users  Join Date: Feb 2015 | - The ncps or ncpx are smaller than the k110. This is a bonus if you want it for truly confined spaces. My ncpx was fine for doing slow 'consolation' circuits when the weather was bad in a 15x17' room with 9' ceilings. - The blade helis fly noticeably less stably than the k110. - K110 is built more sturdily and is easier to work on - K110 is brushless and with a real outrunner brushless form factor, not the weird little inrunner brushless with the same shape as the brushed. Makes for good cooling, easy maintenance, and many motors you can try without mods. - Blades can use a good spektrum TX which is a bonus ...but the x6 TX works well and with some tinkering can even feel pretty darn good. I'll elaborate if anyone cares. K110 can also use futaba if you have one. - k110 uses rotary servos...not necessarily better or worse but it looks nice. So basically, the ncps/x is a better pure indoor heli. However, the k110 is faster (also tames down well but can get away nonetheless), more stable, built better, cheaper, easier to work on...I have a k110 and I'd buy a k100 long before I bought another ncps/x. And as you can see in my signature, I'm a blade guy...their stuff is good...just not the ncps/x. __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-19-2017, 06:43 PM | #4 (permalink) |
Rocketman777 Registered Users Thread Starter  Join Date: Sep 2009 | Great info - thanks very much! I have spent more $$ over the years on upgrade Blade Heli parts and tinkering to get them to fly correctly. The K110 seems to fix all of those issues and I can spend more time flying. Do you recommend any aftermarket parts? |
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| 01-19-2017, 06:50 PM | #5 (permalink) |
| bredler Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Quote: Originally Posted by Rocketman777  Great info - thanks very much! I have spent more $$ over the years on upgrade Blade Heli parts and tinkering to get them to fly correctly. The K110 seems to fix all of those issues and I can spend more time flying. Do you recommend any aftermarket parts? | It flies well enough I wouldn't mess with it. Best to keep it light and stock. Probably the only thing I'll change is a k120 tail blade. It's still a micro with a brushed tail, so it will always have some response lag compared to a mechanical tail but this should help. Overall I'm very happy and may buy a bnf for the $65 that TomTop charges just to have a backup. I did cut vent holes in the canopy though when I noticed a motor temp difference between flying with it on vs off. Why spend more money on a heli you are buying because it's cheap and flies well?  __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-19-2017, 07:13 PM | #6 (permalink) |
| Rocketman777 Registered Users Thread Starter Join Date: Sep 2009 | Thanks!! Is Top Tom the cheapest place to buy? |
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| 01-19-2017, 07:18 PM | #7 (permalink) |
| learnedthehardway Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | There are good Blade helis and bad ones but none of them are great except maybe the 180 with a couple easy mods or the bigger pro series helis that are no longer available. Not uncommon for a helicopter to require a couple tweaks for better reliability/crashability. I've owned the 120sr, 2x nano cpx, mcpx v2, mcpx bl, 180, 300cfx and 450x. Only one that was a total POS was the 300. Vibes, defective BX, stripped screws, dogshat servos and motor. Thought they were good helis but once I got a Oxy3 and then Mini Protos and Protos 500, the Blades were exposed for what they really are. Cheaper to buy but lower quality overpriced parts catch up to you in the long run. It's not just that though, it's also that the Oxy and MSH helis are more intelligently designed to make them fly better be easier to work on than Blade helis. Very annoying when you have to take a bunch of stuff apart just to get at the bottom screw on the reat servo like on the bigger cfx helis. It's a plain stupid servo layout. Blade helis are a great place to start and will teach you alot. My 300cfx was a nightmare that literally almost made me quit the hobby from all the issues andHH tech support saying I was doing something wrong even though I had rebuilt my 450x a few times without a single problem. Was hell but also taught me more about heli mechanics and electronics than any heli before or after The Oxy completely changed my rc heli experience. When I only had Blade helis every payday I was ordering some upgrade for shortcomings or part/servo ect fom failures. In 10 months and 800 flights I put 1, $6 belt on the Oxy cause it looked dry not cause it broke. Blah blah anyways, you do get what you pay for. Pay more up front or pay with money, time and frustration later. There really is a big difference between Blade and more reputable brands and it's called the long haul. My Mini P is who knows how many years old, on it's 4th owner and still flies perfect, runs smooth as silk and looks great. Short version is learn what you can from them then move on to better brands. XK-110 to 230 or 180 to a good 450 like the X3, Mini Protos, etc. My only regret in this hobby is dumping thousands of dollars on Blade helis before listening to other Helifreaks and getting a kit. __________________ Mini Protos 6s stretch/XK K110/Trex 450sport v2 fbl/Rochobby Nemesis NXT/RareBear funfighter620mm ~Problem Child~ |
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| 01-20-2017, 12:37 AM | #8 (permalink) |
| bredler Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Quote: | Originally Posted by learnedthehardway My only regret in this hobby is dumping thousands of dollars on Blade helis before listening to other Helifreaks and getting a kit. | My 550x was $350 used in pristine condition. My 360 was $275 used also in pristine condition. I'd never pay full price for a blade heli! Good for what they are but I've known it's not what I really wanted, just good deals. I've got a Gaui X7 I'm acquiring electronics for, and I I'd probably trade an oxy for my 180...the 180 is good but just not that crash worthy and requires the same space as an oxy >_< The 550x is a mellow trainer that flies like a bus. Still flies great though. Predictable and still capable of mild 3D. The 360 for sure has capability beyond my skills...aaannndddd I also wish it was a protos 380. __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-20-2017, 02:01 AM | #9 (permalink) |
| salrica Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011 | Quote: | Originally Posted by Rocketman777 Thanks!! Is Top Tom the cheapest place to buy? | This is Tomtop's on eBay. Cheaper than on their website http://www.ebay.com/itm/131814145719 |
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| 01-20-2017, 02:11 AM | #10 (permalink) |
| bredler Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Same price shipped. Still ships from China. __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-20-2017, 02:18 AM | #11 (permalink) |
| salrica Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011 | Christmas got all the k110 in the States And the price went up, because of the big sale. You can wait a few months and get it here in the States and maybe cheaper, around 55$ |
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| 01-20-2017, 02:24 AM | #12 (permalink) |
| bredler Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Quote: | Originally Posted by salrica Christmas got all the k110 in the States And the price went up, because of the big sale. You can wait a few months and get it here in the States and maybe cheaper, around 55$ | Yeah I'm kicking myself for missing the thanksgiving 50% off from BG sale. __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-20-2017, 02:35 AM | #13 (permalink) |
| salrica Registered Users Join Date: Jan 2011 | Quote: | Originally Posted by bredler Yeah I'm kicking myself for missing the thanksgiving 50% off from BG sale. | Don't blame you But I would get the RTF, it seems to be cheap and comes with the radio. I'm talking myself to get one more. LOL Not bad for the price, I would have an spare radio, you never know and then waiting for the radio to come in the slow boat if something happens. http://m.tomtop.com/airplane-toys-1173/p-rm3633.html |
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| 01-20-2017, 11:45 AM | #14 (permalink) |
| bredler Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Quote: | Originally Posted by salrica Don't blame you But I would get the RTF, it seems to be cheap and comes with the radio. I'm talking myself to get one more. LOL Not bad for the price, I would have an spare radio, you never know and then waiting for the radio to come in the slow boat if something happens. http://m.tomtop.com/airplane-toys-1173/p-rm3633.html | Yeah I got the RTF and love it. Even the RTF would have been $55 at thanksgiving though.  But I still got it for $81 shipped. Next time there's a deal I'll pick up a BNF for a backup. __________________ Current Fleet: Gaui X5 6s Stretch to 560, Oxy 3 TE 4s, Oxy 3 255 4s, Blade 180 cfx, KX110 Former: Blade 550x, Blade 360 cfx 6s, Blade Nano cpx, Blade Nano QX |
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| 01-20-2017, 12:45 PM | #15 (permalink) |
| learnedthehardway Registered Users Join Date: Feb 2015 | Quote: | Originally Posted by bredler My 550x was $350 used in pristine condition. My 360 was $275 used also in pristine condition. I'd never pay full price for a blade heli! Good for what they are but I've known it's not what I really wanted, just good deals. I've got a Gaui X7 I'm acquiring electronics for, and I I'd probably trade an oxy for my 180...the 180 is good but just not that crash worthy and requires the same space as an oxy >_< The 550x is a mellow trainer that flies like a bus. Still flies great though. Predictable and still capable of mild 3D. The 360 for sure has capability beyond my skills...aaannndddd I also wish it was a protos 380. | Lol..I've been drooling over the P380 for a while now but it's a little pricey. Not too bad since you can sell the Brain for $100 but I'd rather it came with a motor and maybe some blades instead. Especially since it uses a $100-$125 motor. That's my only beef with MSH, cramming a Brain down your throat since I use SK540's on everything. Got my cf stretch P500 for $195 with 3 lipos and spares but it needed a fbl, $60 SK540 out of the classifieds took care of that. Paid $170 for my Mini, it needed servos and a fbl but it came with 5 canopies and spares by the pound (not kidding) Can't help but smile when I look at the mountain of NIP parts including Lynx upgrades and service packs for the upgrades. Ended up trading my 500 for another Mini plus some cash since crashing 450's is better for my budget plus I didn't feel comfortable flying the 500 at my close to home spots which made it more impractical. Sold my Oxy3 as well since it was a hair small for my old eyes and the Mini flies the same it's just a little smoother/more stable. MSH have helis have the perfect disc loading for my particular taste and very snappy flip/roll rates. Oxy is also very fast and required the same amount of space to fly as a 450 for me anyway. Basic 3d in a slightly smaller area but it was every bit as fast as a 450 when you open it up and let the blades sing. I buy everything I can out of the classifieds anymore, fraction of the price and you usually get a lot of extra goodies __________________ Mini Protos 6s stretch/XK K110/Trex 450sport v2 fbl/Rochobby Nemesis NXT/RareBear funfighter620mm ~Problem Child~ |
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| 01-20-2017, 10:51 PM | #16 (permalink) |
| HateTheDrake Registered Users Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: USA | Quote: | Originally Posted by bredler Yeah I got the RTF and love it. Even the RTF would have been $55 at thanksgiving though. But I still got it for $81 shipped. Next time there's a deal I'll pick up a BNF for a backup. | Whoh, $55?  Got mine for $82, and I thought that was a decent price. Definitely pick up a bnf for less at the next sale. |
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