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| have I mentioned that I hate netorare with a burning passion that cannot be described verbally I’m glad some things are tagged “Netorare” but when I run into it on accident I rage so hard it ruins hentai for me. |
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| I also hate NTR but I don't really see the point of this thread. Also i'm pretty sure this is not the right spot to post it |
| Yeah, after watching Natsuyuki Rendezvous, I grew a hatred towards Netorare as well. |
| I love Netorare. That feeling of being taken advantage of really gets me off. Add some ahegao and it's 10x better too and the guy should be black... None of those fatties. |
| i want to see netorare between taylor swift and one of her boyfriends she wrote a song about |
| yeahwhatever said:i want to see netorare between taylor swift and one of her boyfriends she wrote a song about You mean her entire discography? |
| Seeing threads like this make me like NTR even more. THE RAGE! |
| Love is a song |
| I like how this thread is in the music board, so its like you NTRed the music fans. |
| Nice try, rap? |
| YorozuyaGinSan said:I love Netorare. That feeling of being taken advantage of really gets me off. Add some ahegao and it's 10x better too and the guy should be black... None of those fatties. Those fatties add to the humiliation fetish which is what NTR is based on so how come you like NTR but not the fatties? Probably just aesthetic looks i guess? Well if you see them enough you get used to them really. |
| I wouldn't say I hate it, it's just such a far-off fetish that I'll never understand. |
| Monad said:YorozuyaGinSan said:I love Netorare. That feeling of being taken advantage of really gets me off. Add some ahegao and it's 10x better too and the guy should be black... None of those fatties. Those fatties add to the humiliation fetish which is what NTR is based on so how come you like NTR but not the fatties? Probably just aesthetic looks i guess? Well if you see them enough you get used to them really. Personally, I much prefer the guy doing the stealing to be good looking. Not only is it tough to believe some ugly guy will win over a girl like that, but it can be just tough to watch in general. I'm also not a huge fan of mind break or extreme Ahegao either. I prefer the character doing the cheating to be aware and feel guilt over it. It could, in theory make for some good drama. Unfortunately a lot of hentai in general just takes the easy way out and don't try to change it up all that much. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| As much as I like cynicism, NTR is just too much mean spirited negative emotion. Sex should be about love, not suffering. I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. The negative emotions don't lead to any further development. There's no closure. Drama could be interesting, if they decided to include it. But generally it's not included. There's no redemption. It's all just in spite to give certain characters the short end of the stick. |
| insan3soldiern said:Unfortunately a lot of hentai in general just takes the easy way out and don't try to change it up all that much. There are a lot of Ntr manga though not just Hentai with old fatties. Red_Keys said:Sex should be about love, not suffering.I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. Nice baseless assumption right there. How do you know the authors are bitter and want to let out their frustration? |
| tsudecimo said:Red_Keys said:Sex should be about love, not suffering.I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. Nice baseless assumption right there. How do you know the authors are bitter and want to let out their frustration?I don't. That's why I said "I get the idea...". I wasn't claiming anything to be fact. And why else would somebody write or enjoy a story with no purpose other than to cause a character emotional, and sometimes physical, pain? |
| I don't believe this is the right section for that. |
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| wats ntr r all the kewl kids doing it |
| Red_Keys said:As much as I like cynicism, NTR is just too much mean spirited negative emotion. Sex should be about love, not suffering. I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. NTR is not really rape, the girl eventually admits she likes what she is doing. The only one suffering is the previous boyfriend, but who cares about him, he is a wimp most of the time. The negative emotions don't lead to any further development. There's no closure. Drama could be interesting, if they decided to include it. But generally it's not included. There's no redemption. It's all just in spite to give certain characters the short end of the stick. A lot of people who watch hentai don't give a crap about the story, we are just watching to jerk off, if we want good drama we watch something else. |
| Love is a song |
| Red_Keys said:tsudecimo said:Red_Keys said:Sex should be about love, not suffering.I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. Nice baseless assumption right there. How do you know the authors are bitter and want to let out their frustration?I don't. That's why I said "I get the idea...". I wasn't claiming anything to be fact. And why else would somebody write or enjoy a story with no other purpose other than to cause a character emotional, and sometimes physical, pain? Because they find interesting , because there is a market for it , because it is a new/different take on romance and happy endings , because it creates more drama etc... That doesn't mean they are bitter and take their frustration on characters and what not , you don't have to be in a negative state of mind to write stuff like this ( I know a couple of authors who have manga with happy endings and what not and and ones with Ntr ) and sometimes the author have a message inside all of these fucked up situations for example ( The MC character healing his wounds , forgiveness, letting go of the past or learning to trust again and other sentimental stuff ) or facing the harsh reality and what not ( Nozika ana ). |
| Cigarette said:wats ntr r all the kewl kids doing it Absolutely. |
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| Red_Keys said:tsudecimo said:Red_Keys said:Sex should be about love, not suffering.I get the idea that authors are bitter, and create these stories and characters just to crush them, and vent out their own personal frustrations. The fans are probably doing a bit of the same. Nice baseless assumption right there. How do you know the authors are bitter and want to let out their frustration?I don't. That's why I said "I get the idea...". I wasn't claiming anything to be fact. And why else would somebody write or enjoy a story with no purpose other than to cause a character emotional, and sometimes physical, pain? I find certain thoughts and emotions to be interesting to explore. It's not that hard to imagine that some authors want to explore these negative feelings, after all it's just as important to explore them as it is happy and positive emotions/feelings. If not more so. That said, of course there are creators and readers out there that probably feel the way you assumed. But, I doubt all of them do. tsudecimo said:insan3soldiern said:Unfortunately a lot of hentai in general just takes the easy way out and don't try to change it up all that much. There are a lot of Ntr manga though not just Hentai with old fatties. I suppose so, I just have the habit of associating Netorare with hentai. I should stop that. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| I'm 12 and what is that |
| Nidstang said:I'm 12 and what is that It's when the flower gets forced to cheat on a bee, with another bee. And usually, the bee who gets cheated on gets excited, but he can't do anything to safe his flower. |
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| SetsukoHara said:NTR is not really rape, the girl eventually admits she likes what she is doing. The only one suffering is the previous boyfriend, but who cares about him, he is a wimp most of the time.Actually, he's the most important part. Without him suffering, it's not NTR. SetsukoHara said:A lot of people who watch hentai don't give a crap about the story, we are just watching to jerk off, if we want good drama we watch something else.Than those type of fans aren't NTR fans. They're just "stimulating visual representations of sex" fans. If anything that looks sexy is fine, and the story isn't even paid attention to, than you can't consider yourself an "NTR fan", because you're not reading it for the NTR. tsudecimo said:Because they find interesting , because there is a market for it , because it is a new/different take on romance and happy endings , because it creates more drama etc...But why do they find it interesting? Why is there a market for it? Why is it better than happy endings? Things aren't just automatically "interesting". There are psychological reasons for why people like things more than they like other things. I'm not giving a definitive answer to those questions, I'm merely speculating a reason based on the content I find in these works. tsudecimo said:That doesn't mean they are bitter and take their frustration on characters and what not , you don't have to be in a negative state of mind to write stuff like this ( I know a couple of authors who have manga with happy endings and what not and and ones with Ntr ) and sometimes the author have a message inside all of these fucked up situations for example ( The MC character healing his wounds , forgiveness, letting go of the past or learning to trust again and other sentimental stuff ) or facing the harsh reality and what not ( Nozika ana ).To clarify, I am talking about stories that don't use the NTR to advance the characters or plot. I'm talking about stories (usually porn) that the NTR is just there to be hurtful. I can actually quite like it if there is a silver lining, and it results in development and growth. insan3soldiern said:I find certain thoughts and emotions to be interesting to explore. It's not that hard to imagine that some authors want to explore these negative feelings, after all it's just as important to explore them as it is happy and positive emotions/feelings. If not more so. That said, of course there are creators and readers out there that probably feel the way you assumed. But, I doubt all of them do.Except they usually don't explore the negative emotions. It's not for the sake of developing a character, it's for the sake of shitting on a character. Negative emotion reinforced with a positive result is one of my favorite things. But when it's just negativity for the sake of negativity, that's where I draw the line and can't enjoy it. |
| Red_Keys said:tsudecimo said:Because they find interesting , because there is a market for it , because it is a new/different take on romance and happy endings , because it creates more drama etc...But why do they find it interesting? Why is there a market for it? Why is it better than happy endings? Things aren't just automatically "interesting". There are psychological reasons for why people like things more than they like other things. They find interesting because it is less common than positive feelings and all that , a lot of people in this world are just attracted to the stuff that looks abnormal or weird and fucked up they don't need to have a definite psychological reason behind it and they don't necessarily want that to happen in real life or something.Humans are usually just curious creatures by nature. Red_Keys said:tsudecimo said:That doesn't mean they are bitter and take their frustration on characters and what not , you don't have to be in a negative state of mind to write stuff like this ( I know a couple of authors who have manga with happy endings and what not and and ones with Ntr ) and sometimes the author have a message inside all of these fucked up situations for example ( The MC character healing his wounds , forgiveness, letting go of the past or learning to trust again and other sentimental stuff ) or facing the harsh reality and what not ( Nozika ana ).To clarify, I am talking about stories that don't use the NTR to advance the characters or plot. I'm talking about stories (usually porn) that the NTR is just there to be hurtful. Well I am talking about manga not hentai because the hentai artists don't focus on the story to begin with only the art and it is merely a fetish not everyone goes deep into a hentai. But they might if it is a manga because you are supposed to connect to characters in a manga where the characters and the plot are the main focus. -Besides I am not denying there is probably some people who just like negative emotions because of their reality and what not and like to see someone else suffer so they can feel a little better about themselves. |
| mdsamad said:have I mentioned that I hate netorare with a burning passion that cannot be described verbally I’m glad some things are tagged “Netorare” but when I run into it on accident I rage so hard it ruins hentai for me. I'm glad you vented that, but there is no discussion topic. Locked. |
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