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| 02-08-2021, 09:45 PM | #1 |
bandersen Captain  805Rep 988Posts Drives: MY22 X5 40I M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0) | 50i vs 40i, or, 6 vs 8!! ...yep...we'll see how many posts we get with this one... So..I've had both in BMW's..the X5's have been the V8s. I had a few inline 6's in 5 series..as well as a V8 540 (with some sweet Dinan add-ons), and, the current S4 is a supercharged - 6. Nothing beats the true (and not, synthetic) sound of a V8... But if I'm buying a car today - and holding it for 10 years (as I tend to do)....do you think the resale value of the inline 6 will be higher than the 8 (X5 50i) due to environmental reasons (to include presumably the fuel costs)? Over 10 years, that's splitting hairs I know. But honestly - there might not be much of a market for V8s (due to regulatory reasons) in 2030. And - repair costs on the 8's have been on the higher side/not as 'bulletproof' as the inline 6's. Cost is about $13k more for that 8 cyl....plus some of the extra goodies that come with it. I must say though - I almost tried to enter the Cadillac lottery for their Blackwing cars.... Thoughts? |
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| 02-08-2021, 09:49 PM | #2 |
Auricom Brigadier General    4430Rep 4,246Posts Drives: 2020 X5 xDrive40i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: DMV iTrader: (0) | Reposted links to prior discussions: Anyone order a 40i and wish had ordered 50i? https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=26334617 M50i or not https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1675303 Advice needed https://g05.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1727373 I personally lease and go from 6's to 8's or back down from 8's to 6's. Have a M550i and went G05 40i for second vehicle, better fuel economy and prefer the balanced steering with 6-cyl. Also since it was a new gen model - it didn't want to make a large investment unless I enjoyed it. Looking forward to upgrading to M50i........ or maybe stick with the very reliable B58 I6 in 2 more years. __________________ Current BMWs - '20 X5 xDrive40i M Sport, '20 BMW M550i | Past BMWs - '03 E39 540iT M Sport, '06 E53 4.8is, '11 E70 M Sport LCI  |
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| 02-08-2021, 09:50 PM | #3 |
Chapel Hill Private First Class  110Rep 144Posts Drives: BMW X5 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: VA iTrader: (0) | Easy answer for me. In 10 years, I think the resale value of either will be low. More importantly, if you're owning the same car for 10 years then definitely get the one that will make you smile every day  |
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| 02-08-2021, 10:32 PM | #4 |
MystroX5 Major General  6862Rep 5,718Posts Drives: X7M50i/911/GTI/PW Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0) | I traded in a 2019 G05 X5 50i M-Sport that was almost fully loaded. I got top dollar for my trade and it sold in under a week from my dealer driving out of my garage into their showroom. In contrast, they had several X5 40i pre owned sitting on the lot for 3 months with similar low miles as my X5. We had a thread on this. |
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| 02-08-2021, 11:39 PM | #5 |
| jad03060 Major General 3622Rep 7,711Posts Drives: X5 45e Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: NH iTrader: (0) | The V8 costs more to buy, and certainly more to maintain. If money is no object, go with the one you want. The I6 is an inherently balanced configuration, as is a V8, so smoothness isn't a big differentiation, power can be, especially, depending on the specific configuration you choose. If you're willing to modify the engine, the I6 has a lot of headroom to be improved. The 45e has more power out of the box, but it weighs more, and has the chance of retaining a bit more. |
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| 02-08-2021, 11:50 PM | #6 |
SmartSaves X5 Enthusiast   469Rep 762Posts Drives: 2021 X5 Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Neighbourhood of Santa iTrader: (0) Garage List2021 BMW X5 [10.00] | Updated inline 6 B58 TÜ1 ML + ZF8HP51 transmission is for me, one of the very best sensible setup in the automotive world. Also planning to keep it long term. __________________ 2021 X5, Excellence, M Sport, DHP, DAP, RSE, MW, Merino. |
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| 02-09-2021, 12:21 AM | #7 |
-Vanguard- Lieutenant Colonel   1211Rep 1,502Posts Drives: 2021 X6M Competition Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: NY iTrader: (0) | I traded in a 500 hp 6.4L Jeep SRT with intake and catback for the B58 I6 and don't regret it at all. My jeep was about 4.4s 0-60 and this car gets it in about 5.2s, however the turbo makes it feel punchier at lower speeds without needing to wring out the engine. Im also loving getting 19 mpg city versus my SRT's 9 mpg LOL I found that I was never really using all that top end power the jeep had. To really use it, you have to break the law gratuitously. For me, this B58 is very punchy at all speeds and has plenty of acceleration. Then again, if a M50i pulls up next to me, there is a clout factor. Half of owning a nice car is the clout factor lol. It all comes down to you. Both cars are plenty fast. The B58 will not leave you needing more unless you want to blatantly break the law. However, if you wan't that show off factor for other car enthusiasts then the v8 is the way to go at the expense of more MSRP, fuel costs and maintenance costs. Ill tell you one thing, BMW is known for their phenomenal I6's, and they are definitely not known for their V8's lol...their v8's are notorious for eating oil like its their job, leaking, timing issues, injectors going bad, and leaking valve stems. I would certainly not own a 8cyl bmw past its warranty period. The b58 on the other hand has very few issues and with the new 48v starter system, its so so smooth with the auto start stop. Its the first ASS system that I really don't mind. Also, with the m50i, you'll always have the remorse of not splurging the extra 15k for the full X5M/X6M. |
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| 02-09-2021, 04:53 AM | #8 |
| JC316 Second Lieutenant 76Rep 293Posts Drives: 2021 X5 M50i | 2009 E90 335i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Seoul, Korea iTrader: (2) | I'm a lot like you in the sense that I intend on keeping my vehicle past warranty. I also was up in the air and couldn't decide which one I wanted. I ended up putting in an order for the M50i for the following reasons. (I still blame Auricom). 1. IAS is not available for the 2021 40i. 2. DHP is not available for the 2021 40i (This doesn't really matter if you decide to option air suspension. I didn't consider air suspension because I'm coming from an E90 335i and figured DHP would be more comfortable than what I'm used to anyway. I also didn't particularly care for how the X5 M50i drove when optioned with air suspension.) 3. The I6 is plenty fast but is not the V8. (I knew deep in my heart that I would always regret not paying a little more for the V8, especially if I was keeping the vehicle for a long time. The V8 is most definitely going to cost more even if you are fortunate and do not experience any issues during ownership. Gas, insurance, and regular maintenance alone are going to far exceed what it would have cost to own an I6. But at the end of the day, you have to ask yourself. Which one of the two is going to keep a smile on your face. Or which one of the two is going to give you the most happiness. Good luck! BTW, I agree that I don't see either vehicle holding a solid resale value 10 years down the road. But there is no price on your happiness! I'm sure whichever one you pick, it'll be the right one. |
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| 02-09-2021, 06:25 AM | #9 |
M40i4me Lieutenant Colonel  1077Rep 1,552Posts Drives: 2021 X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List2021 X3 M40i [10.00] | I keep my cars a minimum of 10 years so honestly resale value doesn’t concern me as I have basically given them to my kids or donated them after I was done. In the past I typically would have over 200,000 miles on them as well so resale value was insignificant. My 328 having 186,750 miles will hit the 10 year mark in March, but it still rides and runs like new so no need to replace it yet. Anyway, straight 6 works for me, best of both worlds as far as fuel efficiency and quickness. The 40i is no slouch for sure. __________________ 2021 M40i Phytonic Blue / Black Vernasca 2020 X5 xDrive 40i Tanzanite Blue / Coffee Vernasca 2011 328xi. Space Grey - Sold 188,925 great miles |
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| 02-09-2021, 07:56 AM | #10 |
| gofast182 Captain 800Rep 834Posts Drives: 2020 M340i xDrive Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) | Quote: Originally Posted by SmartSaves  Updated inline 6 B58 TÜ1 ML + ZF8HP51 transmission is for me, one of the very best sensible setup in the automotive world. Also planning to keep it long term. | I agree, this is a superlative powertrain as evidence by not only X5 reviews but other BMWs this combo is used in. It punches above its weight in all areas relative to the competition. __________________ 2020 M2 CS, Misano Blue 2020 M340i xDrive, Portimao Blue 2019 X5 xDrive 40i, Mineral White |
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| 02-09-2021, 08:09 AM | #11 |
iconoclast Self-Deprecating Narcissist   7317Rep 6,561Posts Drives: Audi BMW Ferrari LR MB Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: In, Out & Around... iTrader: (1) | Quote: | Originally Posted by bandersen due to environmental reasons (to include presumably the fuel costs)? | the more and more industry goes to ev the lower fuel prices will go because demand will decrease but this is a moot point and really shouldn't figured into your equation; especially if you're "modding" vehicles because that in itself is odd if you're a value based buyer asking about resale down the road or overall cost of ownership. __________________  http://www.instagram.com/_.iconoclast/ |
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| 02-09-2021, 08:14 AM | #12 |
| MystroX5 Major General 6862Rep 5,718Posts Drives: X7M50i/911/GTI/PW Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Central Pa. iTrader: (0) | To be totally honest as we have had this discussion from 2019 on. Just to recap the general opinions of most of our members that have owned them all. The 40i has plenty of power and I respect that this is the lowest performance BMW decided to go with as MB and Audi go a full step lower. The 40i will give you all the get up and go you will need on the off ramp. That said the 50i with its V8TT is in another zip code of performance. It’s a monster in comparison and always feels like a dog on a chain wanting to rip at any speeds. It also has low rumbling exhaust note unlike the 40i. Test drive the 40i and 50i back to back in 2019 and you will buy the 50i as the power is so intoxicating and addictive you will find the extra pennies to upgrade and at $90k gas prices should be the least of your lifestyle concerns. Then enters the M50i from 2020 on. Now you get a all new monster of a engine with the exact same torque as the X5M but with significantly better ride than the X5M. Factor in DHP and all the other M performance goodies to the chassis and you have a serious performance luxury SUV. This is truly a high performance SUV with a under 4 second 0-60mph. This is obviously the enthusiast choice. It is also smoother with so much torque everywhere in the power band and the transmission shift points are reprogrammed and optimized for this amount of power. It really feels like another vehicle compared to the 40i. So what BMW does in their larger SUV line is to upstage Audi and MB on every vehicle trim level with a higher performance engine. BMW is alway a step higher on every stage. The days of the big muscle car V8TT are numbered and we are living in the golden age of high hp so I would go big now while you can. It’s also excessive and has a arrogance about its performance and exhaust noise but isn’t that what a true luxury vehicle is supposed to offer?? In the days of hybrid and fuel saving Ecco boxes, my BMW luxo/performance SUV’s proudly wear this plate of honor.  Last edited by MystroX5; 02-09-2021 at 08:35 AM.. |
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| 02-09-2021, 08:22 AM | #13 |
Ilyam5 Major  949Rep 1,097Posts Drives: 06 M3 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: ma iTrader: (0) | Get a big engine -its a heavy car - it needs it. The only way to drive underpowered cars - is momentum. That’s why it only works in light cars. I can live with underpowered Miata since i can carry much more speed into corner and use the momentum of the car to maintain speed and compensate for lack of torque and power. I can keep it in high rev band and be ok with it. 5000 lb with underpowered engine is going to feel boring quickly and lack of dynamics is going to take away from car enjoyment. Excitement sells - so v8 will always sell better. Im going to opposite way from 50 to x5M - 617 hp, great suspension, no gimmicky active steering - just right. |
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| 02-09-2021, 09:55 AM | #14 |
Benztir Private First Class  132Rep 166Posts Drives: BMW X5 40i Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List2021 BMW X5 [0.00] | I received a new 2021 X5 40i pretty much fully equipped about a month ago and I LOVE IT. By far the best car I've had so far. It is still fun to drive, has a great kick and fully equipped turns on a lot of little details to make it an even greater experience. That said, I kind of wish I went with the 50i though I do not regret the 40i at all. Though I have a blast with the 40i, I can tell I would have a little more fun with additional power. Regardless, you will be happy and it's the reason why this thread will not help you much. Because both drivers of the 40i and the 50i likely LOVE their experience |
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| 02-09-2021, 11:16 AM | #15 |
| bandersen Captain 805Rep 988Posts Drives: MY22 X5 40I M-Sport Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0) | All are great replies - what I expected. Shoulda had a V8..you're old if you remember that ad. LOL. And - I'm still up in the air. The 13-15k extra is one BIG factor I will admit. |
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| 02-09-2021, 11:25 AM | #16 |
| Benztir Private First Class 132Rep 166Posts Drives: BMW X5 40i Join Date: Nov 2020 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List2021 BMW X5 [0.00] | Quote: | Originally Posted by bandersen All are great replies - what I expected. Shoulda had a V8..you're old if you remember that ad. LOL. And - I'm still up in the air. The 13-15k extra is one BIG factor I will admit. | We had a house rule to not spend over 100k$ on a car so that's why I went with the new 2021 X5 40i and still went closer to 108k with all said and done with winter tire kits, tints on windows, ppf, etc... Removing this house rule in the future though But yeah, personally I love getting in the 40i every day, even if I have nowhere to go haha and that says it all. |
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| 02-09-2021, 11:41 AM | #17 |
HouseMD Private  55Rep 69Posts Drives: G05 Join Date: Sep 2020 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0) | I had ordered a 40i just before COVID. When it was delayed with no target date, I found an M50i a couple of states away and bought that instead. I'm very happy with the M50i. I plan to keep the car for 7 yrs so I bought the extended warranty. I know a lot of people will say that it isn't a good deal and self-insure but now I don't have to worry about it. I also won't have to face fixing a convenience feature and justifying the cost . With the environmental trends and shifts of companies to EV, this may be the last chance to buy a V8. In some circles, that may actually help resell but, after 7 years, the resell value won't be great anyway which is a depressing thought for something of this cost.... If you're keeping it for 10 years, the $13K is only $1,300/yr not counting the time value of money. 7 yrs of bumper-to-bumper warranty is 3-4K. I'm sure the maintenance cost, which isn't part of the extended warranty, will be higher but have no idea how much. At the end of the day, if you're shopping for a vehicle in this price range, you are fortunate enough that, although you want to weigh the additional costs, these aren't lifestyle altering amounts over this time period. At the end of the day you have to be comfortable that you spent within your financial means according to your overall financial plan/strategy balanced with the pleasure you'll get from the V8 over the i6. |
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| 02-09-2021, 11:50 AM | #18 |
LOW4LYF Brigadier General  2212Rep 4,134Posts Drives: E92 M3 & F85 X5M Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: @Home iTrader: (1) | With all the speed limits in the US horsepower is totally overrated. I own currently four V8 and three R6, my next G05 will be a R6 probably. BMW really know how to make R6 engines. |
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| 02-09-2021, 11:59 AM | #19 |
dream54ing Captain  509Rep 953Posts Drives: 428xi F32- X5 X5 G05 -640i F06 Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: ARIZONA iTrader: (0) | Depends on what you want it for, imo, ones who gets the v8 are ones who are BMW/car euthenist or just wants to say they have a v8/badge and some just have the extra $$ to get it. when we test drove the both, there was a significant difference in power, but going that a few sec faster or passing someone on the highway just doesnt justify it for us. honestly, when will you really need the extra power of the v8 when the i6 is more than what a normal individual/SUV needs. this was purchase as the wife's daily and as much as i wanted a V8 to have the extra power, i never needed it in the two years we had it. plus when we had it fully packed with passengers/luggage/cargo/etc, the i6 still hauls ass. Also, mentioned budget. with the cost saving of a v8, we were able to get a pretty loaded i6. We are soon planning to get an x7, that I can justify a v8 because of the extra weight of the vehicle, extra passenger, cargo, etc. |
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| 02-09-2021, 12:59 PM | #20 |
| Lance Alot Private First Class 57Rep 174Posts Drives: 2021 X5M50i Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0) | I owned a few 6’s before getting an M on my last BMW. I particularly loved the inline E46 engine. With that said, this big eight cylinder brings a smile to my face every time I punch it. It feels and sounds almost angry...smiling now thinking about it. Yes, it burns a ridiculous amount of gas...and oil, but oh that power! I couldn’t go back to a six after coming of of this, so I compromised with the M50i. It’s all about preferences though. |
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| 02-09-2021, 01:27 PM | #21 |
| iconoclast Self-Deprecating Narcissist 7317Rep 6,561Posts Drives: Audi BMW Ferrari LR MB Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: In, Out & Around... iTrader: (1) | Thinking out loud here but if MPG is major factor... Why not just get a heavily optioned 45e for $82k or so? __________________ http://www.instagram.com/_.iconoclast/ |
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| 02-09-2021, 01:32 PM | #22 |
TXDroneRacer Private First Class  70Rep 128Posts Drives: 21 M5 Comp, 21 X5 M50i Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: Houston iTrader: (0) Garage List2021 BMW X5 M50i [0.00]2021 BMW M5 Comp [0.00] | After picking up my new M5C, I talked to my BMW guy and canceled my wife's order for the x40i. Our M50i is now scheduled for production. Can't wait. There's no way I would be happy going back and forth from the M5C to the 40i. Going from a [loaded x40i] to a [loaded M50i + adding DHP, Bowers and special paint Tanzanite] only increased my monthly payments by ~$206 [with only first payment down.] I couldn't say no to that for an extra $2500/year. |
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