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Start date Sep 11, 2013

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LedZepJP

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Joined Aug 1, 2011 Messages 51 Reaction score 0 I am looking to replace the stock Celestion 70/80 speaker in my Marshall DSL40C. I am set on the Creambacks as I've heard amazing reviews about them. There are limited clips online on the G12M-65 and only one clip I found on the G12-H75 (below). I'm looking for a warm speaker to tame the harshness of this amp and boost up some low end. Has anyone tried the G12H-75's? or the 65's? Any suggestions for other speakers are welcome. Thanks DaveK

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Joined Jun 2, 2004 Messages 490 Reaction score 263 Location Seattle Those are my amps in the above vid, so I have experience with both the M and H models. If you want warmer highs and more lows, the M fits the bill. The H adds additional highs and less mid punch than the M, as well as tighter lows. Both really great speakers, super impressed with them out of the box.

gulliver

Silver Supporting Member Joined Jun 25, 2005 Messages 20,114 Reaction score 22,177 Location Buffalo, NY Very cool. I like the H a lot better, and seem to gravitate towards the H side of things every time lately. I have scumback H75 LHDCs, guessing the Scumbacks are a little more in-your-face with more upper mids ... but seem to be in a similar ball park. F

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gulliver said: Very cool. I like the H a lot better, and seem to gravitate towards the H side of things every time lately. I have scumback H75 LHDCs, guessing the Scumbacks are a little more in-your-face with more upper mids ... but seem to be in a similar ball park. Click to expand...

me too, time and time again. i just can't abide that fizz & raspiness of the M and this video perfectly highlights what i always hear in person. so no contest for me - long live the H! it just sounds like a guitar to me. L

LedZepJP

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Joined Aug 1, 2011 Messages 51 Reaction score 0 thanks for the replies. Still a tough decision for me to make. I play classic rock from Led Zep to Black Sabbath, etc. I also do some metal. I'll have to have an amp that will tame the treble in the DSL40c. Has anyone tried the Celestion Alnico Golds?

gulliver

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LedZepJP said: thanks for the replies. Still a tough decision for me to make. I play classic rock from Led Zep to Black Sabbath, etc. I also do some metal. I'll have to have an amp that will tame the treble in the DSL40c. Has anyone tried the Celestion Alnico Golds? Click to expand...

I have a Alnico Blue Dog and had an Alnico Silver Bell. For me, those tones are nice for gritty OD tones. When you go heavy Marshall on them with higher gain, they sound overly compressed and congested to me, but many use them for these applications. The Scumback H75 LHDCs are nice in that the large dust cap rounds off the highs. I feel I have more control over the highs as well, when adjusting treble. I've had Celestion G12H30s before, too peaky in the extended highs for me. GAT

GAT

Platinum Supporting Member Joined Feb 6, 2005 Messages 21,671 Reaction score 16,886 Location Reno I have both and used them in the same 1x12 cab. You're describing the M version. L

LedZepJP

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gulliver said: I have a Alnico Blue Dog and had an Alnico Silver Bell. For me, those tones are nice for gritty OD tones. When you go heavy Marshall on them with higher gain, they sound overly compressed and congested to me, but many use them for these applications. The Scumback H75 LHDCs are nice in that the large dust cap rounds off the highs. I feel I have more control over the highs as well, when adjusting treble. I've had Celestion G12H30s before, too peaky in the extended highs for me. Click to expand...

Yeah, I've also heard great things about Scumbacks. I jsut wished there were more sound clips of the scumbacks ans Celestion G12H-75's.

gulliver

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LedZepJP said: Yeah, I've also heard great things about Scumbacks. I jsut wished there were more sound clips of the scumbacks ans Celestion G12H-75's. Click to expand...

If you hang out in the emporium, you should be able to find some deals. Buy, try and sell what you don't like. you really need to live with and dial in a speaker before you can judge, clips are for keeping you on the right path. L

LedZepJP

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Joined Aug 1, 2011 Messages 51 Reaction score 0 I've been overthinking things.I think I'll just take a leap of faith and pull the trigger on a g12h-75 for more DSL40C. Hearing that the g12m-65 might be raspy and fizzy. That's the last thing I need for this amp. 6Tones

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Joined Sep 17, 2002 Messages 5,032 Reaction score 664 Location NY Im that video ,I like the H 75 a lot more. L

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6Tones said: Im that video ,I like the H 75 a lot more. Click to expand...

Cool, the H 75 sounds thicker and tighter in the video. Would you say that the H75 is warmer sounding than the M 65? I hope my DSL40C can handle it well. 6Tones

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LedZepJP said: Cool, the H 75 sounds thicker and tighter in the video. Would you say that the H75 is warmer sounding than the M 65? I hope my DSL40C can handle it well. Click to expand...

The 75 sounded a lot brighter/ present in the mix (not harsh though but I guess can be with a bright setup) and more open in that vid . DaveK

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LedZepJP said: I've been overthinking things.I think I'll just take a leap of faith and pull the trigger on a g12h-75 for more DSL40C. Hearing that the g12m-65 might be raspy and fizzy. That's the last thing I need for this amp. Click to expand...

That is absolutely NOT how the M sounds. No raspy or fizzy highs. T

telejammer

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Joined Sep 4, 2007 Messages 679 Reaction score 95 Location Pa. I'm using an Egnater CL80 speaker in my DSL40C, came out of an Egnater 2-12 cab. It really is smother than the stock 70-80 imo. The lows are tighter and the highs are not fizzy at all. I also gig this amp for smaller venues and it really does deliver. Always have someone come up and say how good that little Marshall sounds. L

LedZepJP

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DaveK said: That is absolutely NOT how the M sounds. No raspy or fizzy highs. Click to expand...

I was referring to Freaksho's post.

TheGuildedAge

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Joined Sep 11, 2005 Messages 13,059 Reaction score 14,502 I have a 75 and absolutely love it. I was blown away by it and how good it sounds. Overdrive, clean, just awesome. L

LedZepJP

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6Tones said: The 75 sounded a lot brighter/ present in the mix (not harsh though but I guess can be with a bright setup) and more open in that vid . Click to expand...

For the DSL40C, would you recommend the H75 over the M65? for the low end boost and smoother high end. RussB

RussB

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Joined Jul 3, 2004 Messages 11,150 Reaction score 2,799 Location CT If you want smooth, consider the Heritage G12-65 I have a G12m-65 creamback, and it's not raspy and/or fizzy

lostpoet2

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Joined Jun 15, 2008 Messages 3,338 Reaction score 2,842 Location Houston, TX I think the WGS ET65 might work for you.

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